editor’s note: Just moving some of Thonsuk’s comments from this post into a thread of there own. Not all the readers troll through the comments or subscribe to the comments via RSS. Given that not everyone will have read this. Some of you have already - no drama. Some nice nuggets in here.
Or full-Monty corporate expat wife whose hubby has strayed with an engaging but ill-educated Isaan hard-body. (You can thank that “Woman’s Studies” program.)
Comment 1:
@ m: Hmmmm. I’ll lay this out for ya “cause you may just have been “taking the piss” (whatever THAT’s supposed to mean) so please forgive the “pedestrian” tone.
(Me? I’m just kidding, here 
Michael Crichton, of all people, in a short story in “Travels” (penned between endless rewrites of his Andromeda Stain) noted to the initial dismay of many of us that between men and women it was actually MEN who were the great “hopeless romantics”.
After road testing his theory for more years than I’d care to remember (both in serious “couplehood” trials and un-forgettably depraved torrid one-nighters) I will suggest to you that this “order up” approach you hold in such high regard and to which you to frequently subscribe when commenting on ww’s posts, leaves most men a bit cold
Another great man on another great board once commented that it was always a good idea to (”Wait for it ;-)” seduce the whore into liking you. His idea was that the The sex would be less “by the numbers” and the price might be a tad lower if the “athlete” had some laughs prior to closing.
While, for an evening of engagement and frolic you, “m”, may require nothing more than a fistful of fifties, many of us in a quiet moment, will confess we need a “click” or two from the sexy li’ll rascal. Some of us, along with certain personality traits we find engaging, have a “spec” or two we seek. We, in a word, prefer to get the transaction to that “meeting of the minds” stage BEFORE closing.
We play the soft side of the hierarchy game rather than its hard side. It’s usually less expensive; time-wise, disappointment-wise, and, yes, as cheap as it is already, BAHT-wise. In other words we want to ensure that there’s a shot that this here ST will be a bit more than just a stop at the ATM so she can pay Somchi mo’sai’s barbill at Ratchad’s Hollywood Disaco or pay the Q-Bar upcharge 
Now, you, with your boyish good looks and prodigiously rampant regard, may have what it takes to overcome the preconceived hopes and dreams of the Thermae’s myth-oriented nipponette squad. For others among us the object is less clear: In a low-ceilinged room three quarters full of niponettes” or nipponette wannabees, the discerning quester can indeed sense “no-go” at every turn. This can happen at Spicy, le Tunnel, and anywhere else where the chemistry is not right.
We,a la Dr. Crichton, may actually have the temerity to fantasize that that even though she’s working, that li’ll RASCAL (or that big athletic “beach volleyball-style” GATOR actually prefers an “engaged” liaison as well or, at least, like a true pro, will fake one till we’re “through her”
(Oh, to have your cash and/or your irresistible demeanor.)
Because for some evenings, for some of us, that’s just not on.
You’re a smart guy “m”. You don’t need any more of this.
Be nice to ww:-)
Comment 2:
@”m” From the tautological tenor of your position (Argument? Hardly.) and its shrill timbre of I strongly suspect that you are a woman.
You’ve found that you could be less revolted by the reality you see on this site if you denigrated the “engagement” aspect to a form of delusion on our part.
You can accept the rutting sex part but the fact that we actually prefer these women to you and can in fact engage with them and DO so out of preference horrifies you to your very core.
Christ, if this was a GAY site you’d be leaving us the fukc alone wouldn’t you?
“m” We can have a conversation here if you’re honest. A man doesn’t have to be a goddamned hairdresser to discuss this stuff with you.
If I’m wrong about all this I can’t really see what harm I’ve done.
Chaps: Earlier connection dropped.
There may be a duplication.
As well, please feel free to drop this post if it’s too combative.
Regards
Thongsuk
Comment 3:
Hi “m”: Whatever. Obviously.
I’ll just stay with my image of you as a backpacker heifer whose Kao San Pad Thai habit has re-packed, all the lard she dropped in the India leg. (oh yeah and ,um, . . . . who has lost her “partner”)
Or full-Monty corporate expat wife whose hubby has strayed with an engaging but ill-educated Isaan hard-body. (You can thank that “Woman’s Studies” program.)
Or a bored, horny expat English teacher with “thrush.”
(Who rarely gets any anyway but whose Masochistic nature keeps her here instead of hustling her pimply cottage-cheese ass off to South America or Africa. (Indonesia in a pinch? Samui rock climber gigolos and beach boys won’t even bite, ’cause there’s no money.)
A lonely troll (they’re sexless in all senses of the word) who seeks intimacy with others through THIS type engagement on topics of he/she knows next to nothing?
In any case, since you have nothing but a self-defining premise to hang your hat on and no real information to add, I have no wish to continue this sort of exchange.
smitty - cliff notes please? Some of us don’t read more than 3 sentences at a time
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o - I am rereading them all myself to make sure I get it all.
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B’lieve these are the Cliff Notes you ordered, my good man.
Orion Nov 18th, 2007 at 12:38 pm
m - yes it might be, but some people want to have a nice vibe with a girl before taking her home.
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Cliff Notes was a term unfamiliar to me, outside of my regular Cliff Richard fan club updates. So I Wikied it, for the benefit of shy otherlings here…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CliffsNotes
Anyway, I would hate to see the dumbing down of this site (thanks webmeisters for removing - I assume - ‘m’s latest attempt to achive this) so I’d like to vote against these Cliff Note things for Thongsuks contributions.
I thoroughly enjoyed them first time, and did not find them long winded, laborious or compicated at all. Perhaps just a bit like (say)Usual Suspects vs Rush Hour 3. In fact they were fcuking funny (unlike Rush Hour 3).
What I did find interesting, was the suspension of the rule banning attacks on other posters. Presumably because it wasn’t really a fair fight and because it was so nicely done.
Bravo to all concerned chaps.
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TS sounds a bit self-righteous and is extremently impressed with his vocalulary of $5 words.
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He ain’t generally Ron. I guess he just lost patience with one particular poster, and articulated nicely what many of us would like to have done.
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co - u make some great points and we still police but I don’t mind a good argument. When both sides are free to state their cases and banter or whatever. It is the personal attacks or the mindless comments that seem to be negative but offer no reason why or have anything positive to add other than the negative comment.
For example = Mr. baltimore is a case of gray. He did not really come out and attack but he posted a negative comment but in turn did not offer anything of value. So I will let it sit given it is a great example of what I am talking about it. Given though we generally have a community who understands this - guys like combover jump in and explain things so hopefully guys like rob see the bigger picture.
It is like an enzyme. We just try to keep the growing environment safe.
Like BBK - one may not agree with what Thongsuk says but I think he is interesting, sometimes even funny and brings something to the party.
Let’s keep it rolling folks. Nothing to see here.
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I never understand anything Thongsuk writes; too cerebral for my tiny brain, but I do notice that he’s always asking everybody not to pick on me, so I guess I like his ideas. Oh, yeah… BTW RB, be nice to TS
:b 
Oh shit, i ran out of emoticons!
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WW.. use some of mine..
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I give u all of u a fair warning - I would love to see less emoticons and if I don’t soon I am tempted to work on some code that will strip them from comments.
thanks!
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@ Room: Until I ran out, I used to use the odd emoticon as a safety precaution to which I could resort if I was attempting to be ironic. But yeah, fukc it. I’ll just work without a net and see what happens.
@ Ron Baltimore: pedestrian, depraved, engagement, seduction, transaction, prodigiously, myth-oriented, niponette, tautological, tenor, duplication, combative
Hi Ron. The notion that (notion = $5 word?) one must stick to drawing from a vocabulary of 3000 words is downright dumb.
Ron? You’re not dumb at all, are you.
You just want us to think you are, right?
So which one of those words (with the exception of “tautological” is offending you, giving you trouble as perhaps being a tad highfalutin hmmm? . . . . . and, um, why?
I’ll be more than happy to replace it.
(Oops! Is “tad” another on of those $5 words?)
Only one syllable. But it could be like “snippy”. I remember somebody used “snippy once and got called on it.
In future, speak to me directlu instead of crassly canvassing the room for people who appreciate your brand of snobbery.
Or just met me know the word and I’ll, you know, look it up for you. I have a computer with internet access so it won’t be much of a problem. Now THIS, (all this here) was said with an (admittedly) slightly sarcastic tone.
But something tells me you can work your way through it faster than shit through a goose.
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On a lighter note, Daywalker has lost his head.
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Lost my head???
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@ hanuman (Well done - Well timed - Well said)
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I give u all of u a fair warning - I would love to see less emoticons and if I don’t soon I am tempted to work on some code that will strip them from comments.
@smitty: If you’re serious (not sure if you are or not) I believe you can just go to Options>>>Writing then un-tick the box that converts emoticons.
If you’re not serious, then :b
Love
WW
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ww - I was just trying to lay out a threat where someone actually thought I might spend time working on the problem thus making people think I might be serious. Honestly just hoping for less emoticons.
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Playing ‘catch-up’ on this blog-site… I’ve noticed a few things.
The very 1st posting by the administrator ‘Smitty’?
“So here we go. Read it, condemn it, comment on it - whatever u feel like doing since that is the purpose of it all anyway.”
Whilst some of you (me included) have used the smilies/emoticons, I think you’ll find that the only person using them to excess is ‘Thongsuk’?! - by his own admission too. “do I use the emoticons too much”
‘One bad apple’ spoils it for the rest.
I can see why Smitty is pissed, but the odd smiley does provide a little humor and color.
Smitty & Co… Sorry for sounding off. Do I detect a little hero-worshipping and back-slapping going on here? Not to mention the ‘ganging-up’ on people.
There are some funny contributers here, and some who are just too long winded and like the sound of their own voice. (so to speak)
Do the postings have a life-span? Reading posts published over a year ago has got me wanting to ask questions about certain things.
Is there a ‘free-for-all’ page, where any topic can be discussed?
- still learning.
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Tuk & Han (tag-team?), Mr Wolf & Smitster.
Sorry if my emoticons pissed anyone off. Just trying to add a little variety from the boring old plain smile.
“@ hanuman (Well done - Well timed - Well said)”
- That wasn’t well timed at all. It took several hours to appear?!
Devil… We all love each other really.
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da- Given I said I would love to see less emoticons I think u can see I was not like dead serious on this. Hero worship? I don’t even know who Thongsuk is? I just thought his comments were thought provoking and whilst in the comment tree not everyone sees them. So I posted them in a thread. Have done this many times in the past with comments. Has nothing to do with my feelings for the poster at all.
No blog is perfect and no writer is but I like the mix we have here and the stats I see seem to show we are doing okay. Solid growth and increased user signups. However we are all ears.
In fact we have cut a few of Thongsuk’s comments out so no hero worship here.
All posts live forever and can be commented on forever. We have not built a board like space for basic free flow information but we think about it.
thanks!
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Smitty.. Sorry, I should have been more clear.
The hero-worshiping is amoungst the commenters.
I find your views / edits firm but fair.
I am impressed with the site to the point where I’ve dropped others.
One of which (as I’ve now read) got a roasting from you guys.
I’ll not mention his name. (DTR!)
Keep it up.
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da - thanks. we are not perfect but honest and overly open about it all so people tend to air their issues right on the blog. which I think is great. no apologies needed and thanks for reading.
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@Daywalker; What’s going on with your avatars? Yesterday Blade’s head got chopped off (probably done by ultraman who got bored with your emoticons), earlier today you played the joker and now the headless magician. Sorry for my late reply but I do stay in another timezone.
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@hanuman… ‘odd’? I saw your ‘lost head’ comment and thought I was under some kind of unprovoked attack?! (jeered on by Thonguk!) My screen showed a healthy Blade with head?!! My latest offering was to complement your statement.?!
Normal service will be resumed when I bored with Avatars…
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@Daywalker; Sometimes I get partial avatars on my screen, but I must admit, the lost head comment, was meant as a double entendre.
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@ DW: I was referring to the “on a lighter note” part of hanuman’s remark rather than on the “lost your head” part. His tempering immediately after the comments to RB were what the thread needed, don’t you think.
Regret any misunderstandings. I normally don’t jeer and gainsay I usually just “come right out and say it.”
Again. No jeers.
(*sigh* . . . . the internet is so-o-o-o strict)
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We joke around without the non-verbal fallbacks we might use in a “face to face” (over a beer) and the tonalities we’d used to defuse our more risky ambiguities.
And (gulp) now that pmmp has cautioned us about the use of emoticons (they really do promote lazy wording) we work without safety nets.
It’s like stand-up comedy in the dark.
I think I’m frightened.
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ts: I am actually a big fan of the emoticon but like everything else, in moderation. Smitty somewhat jokingly put in the comment to banish the emoticons after a flood of them were being used. I definitely agree with that.
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*whew*
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I think his thumbnail verbal sketches of stereotypical characters are amusing……..cruel but amusing……..It’s not my fault that fat people smell is it?
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