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	<title>Comments on: Operation Nid, Pattayrag revealed, and malls suck</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2008/01/30/operation-rescue-nid-pattayrag-revealed-and-malls-suck/#comment-67437</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesman: Re: LD prices.  If you have barfined a girl for a week, the LD quota is not a priority for her as the fee she will receive from you for that week should significantly exceed her LD commission. 

I have sometimes taken girls back to the bars where they work, as it gives them some 'face' with their coworkers, and opportunities to chat with their friends.  Sometimes I have been charged LD prices for their drinks; sometimes regular customer prices.  

What us customers have to be cautious about is our 'dates' wanting to buy LDs for several of their friends in their bar.  I understand the pressure they have to do this, but I take control of that process so it doesn't turn into a feeding frenzy .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesman: Re: LD prices.  If you have barfined a girl for a week, the LD quota is not a priority for her as the fee she will receive from you for that week should significantly exceed her LD commission. </p>
<p>I have sometimes taken girls back to the bars where they work, as it gives them some &#8216;face&#8217; with their coworkers, and opportunities to chat with their friends.  Sometimes I have been charged LD prices for their drinks; sometimes regular customer prices.  </p>
<p>What us customers have to be cautious about is our &#8216;dates&#8217; wanting to buy LDs for several of their friends in their bar.  I understand the pressure they have to do this, but I take control of that process so it doesn&#8217;t turn into a feeding frenzy .<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/993067265" rel="nofollow">View all comments by DJ</a></p>
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		<title>By: werewolf</title>
		<link>http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2008/01/30/operation-rescue-nid-pattayrag-revealed-and-malls-suck/#comment-67379</link>
		<dc:creator>werewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so you think I'm only a 'pretend' animal??  Sounds about right.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so you think I&#8217;m only a &#8216;pretend&#8217; animal??  Sounds about right.  <img src='http://www.tfs2m.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/19558033" rel="nofollow">View all comments by werewolf</a></p>
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		<title>By: pmmp</title>
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		<dc:creator>pmmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yesman: Drink Quota doesn't go down. Mostly because the bar is not getting drinks from the girl, her's or the customers. Sure, she paid the bar but that just excuses her from work...and she does gets paid Salary for that day. She will also get a piece of the barfine in some bars. In the Big Mango Bar we always encouraged the girls to bring/keep their customers that paid barfine in the bar so both the girl and the bar benefit from the extra drinks being bought. This is pretty normal amongst bars which is why some places that have Pool and Food do okay business. Drinks make the bar money. Everything else is the supporting cast.

ww: Thanks for the kind words. In the land of party animals you are a Lion King. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yesman: Drink Quota doesn&#8217;t go down. Mostly because the bar is not getting drinks from the girl, her&#8217;s or the customers. Sure, she paid the bar but that just excuses her from work&#8230;and she does gets paid Salary for that day. She will also get a piece of the barfine in some bars. In the Big Mango Bar we always encouraged the girls to bring/keep their customers that paid barfine in the bar so both the girl and the bar benefit from the extra drinks being bought. This is pretty normal amongst bars which is why some places that have Pool and Food do okay business. Drinks make the bar money. Everything else is the supporting cast.</p>
<p>ww: Thanks for the kind words. In the land of party animals you are a Lion King. <img src='http://www.tfs2m.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/3165243443" rel="nofollow">View all comments by pmmp</a></p>
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		<title>By: werewolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>werewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;"Sense that there are bar owners here."&lt;/em&gt;

yesman: just to let you know that this site TheFARANGSpeaks2Much is operated by two guys who are Bangkok bar owners.  Their original BKK bar (the Big Mango) was in Nana Plaza, but that location closed in Oct 07.  Many people are waiting impatiently for its resurrection in a new location yet to be announced by smitty &#38; pmmp.

In the meantime, they continue to operate one of the best businessman's English pubs in the City in Silom area (The Duke of Wellington).  They rarely mention that business in the blog, but it's large and successful with a nice decor.

Their position as experts on the nightlife scene is based in part on the fact that they are bar owners, but primarily on the fact that they are total party animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Sense that there are bar owners here.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>yesman: just to let you know that this site TheFARANGSpeaks2Much is operated by two guys who are Bangkok bar owners.  Their original BKK bar (the Big Mango) was in Nana Plaza, but that location closed in Oct 07.  Many people are waiting impatiently for its resurrection in a new location yet to be announced by smitty &amp; pmmp.</p>
<p>In the meantime, they continue to operate one of the best businessman&#8217;s English pubs in the City in Silom area (The Duke of Wellington).  They rarely mention that business in the blog, but it&#8217;s large and successful with a nice decor.</p>
<p>Their position as experts on the nightlife scene is based in part on the fact that they are bar owners, but primarily on the fact that they are total party animals.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/19558033" rel="nofollow">View all comments by werewolf</a></p>
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		<title>By: yesman</title>
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		<dc:creator>yesman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sense there are bar owners her.If a girl gets bar fined for a couple weeks or longer does her drink quota go down? Doesn't seem right that it would stay they same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sense there are bar owners her.If a girl gets bar fined for a couple weeks or longer does her drink quota go down? Doesn&#8217;t seem right that it would stay they same.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/3315016826" rel="nofollow">View all comments by yesman</a></p>
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		<title>By: pmmp</title>
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		<dc:creator>pmmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's pretty normal. It costs you a bit more but she will get her slice of it, about 40 baht on average. For example, if you buy her a Heineken  as a non-LD it will cost you let's say 100 baht. The bar gets 100 baht, the girl gets nothing. If you buy it as an LD it will cost you 120 baht. The bar gets 80 baht and the girl gets 40 baht. 

It might also helps her meet her monthly quota if the bar has an LD monthly quota.

You are basically helping her out buying her an LD and it keeps her in good standing with the bar. Some girls though will not take the LD to save you some money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty normal. It costs you a bit more but she will get her slice of it, about 40 baht on average. For example, if you buy her a Heineken  as a non-LD it will cost you let&#8217;s say 100 baht. The bar gets 100 baht, the girl gets nothing. If you buy it as an LD it will cost you 120 baht. The bar gets 80 baht and the girl gets 40 baht. </p>
<p>It might also helps her meet her monthly quota if the bar has an LD monthly quota.</p>
<p>You are basically helping her out buying her an LD and it keeps her in good standing with the bar. Some girls though will not take the LD to save you some money.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/3165243443" rel="nofollow">View all comments by pmmp</a></p>
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		<title>By: yesman</title>
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		<dc:creator>yesman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should I be paying lady drink prices if I have bar fined a girl for say a week and we stop by her bar for a drink when we are out? I have  been . Is this a rip off or is it normal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should I be paying lady drink prices if I have bar fined a girl for say a week and we stop by her bar for a drink when we are out? I have  been . Is this a rip off or is it normal?<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/3315016826" rel="nofollow">View all comments by yesman</a></p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>j - I forget her name but my girl had her number but it does not work anymore and she is no longer in the cage. She was young, small and dark. Amazing bod. Probably my best 3some pull ever. Kills me to think about it. I can't collect the 3rd wheels number or I get into trouble. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>j - I forget her name but my girl had her number but it does not work anymore and she is no longer in the cage. She was young, small and dark. Amazing bod. Probably my best 3some pull ever. Kills me to think about it. I can&#8217;t collect the 3rd wheels number or I get into trouble. <img src='http://www.tfs2m.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/62563103" rel="nofollow">View all comments by smitty</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pattaya Rag Pattaya Update #1 at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pattaya Rag Pattaya Update #1 at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 06:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Farang Speaks 2 Much recently ran a fairly detailed review of the main line bars so for my first bar crawl on behalf of FS2M I decided to visit a number of bars that are not normally considered main line bars but are worth a beer or two of your time: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Farang Speaks 2 Much recently ran a fairly detailed review of the main line bars so for my first bar crawl on behalf of FS2M I decided to visit a number of bars that are not normally considered main line bars but are worth a beer or two of your time: [...]<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/0" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Pattaya Rag Pattaya Update #1 at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much</a></p>
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		<title>By: jonbanger</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonbanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i didnt have a problem with drinks.

smitty- did one of your 3somes involve a cage dancer named "Air" who is cute and young looking? if so...damn, i missed a great opportunity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i didnt have a problem with drinks.</p>
<p>smitty- did one of your 3somes involve a cage dancer named &#8220;Air&#8221; who is cute and young looking? if so&#8230;damn, i missed a great opportunity<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/350747650" rel="nofollow">View all comments by jonbanger</a></p>
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