Been way busy folks but I managed to get out a bit on Friday night to check in on Nana, hit the Pent and then made a short run through Cowboy. I had planned to try something new. My goal was the Best Room but thanks to the review system I was alerted to the sudden closure of the place by Kanman. Alright. Then I got lazy and decided a short walk down to Nana would be the easy option and I figured Nana needed checking in on. So there you have it. Hopefully next week I will get to somewhere new.
Recent studys on macaque monkeys has shown that male monkeys trade grooming of female monkeys for sex. This is priceless stuff folks and it brings to light something missing in the p4p scene in Thailand. How supply and demand does not seem to affect pricing. It would appear that monkeys are more highly evolved in their use of biological marketplaces.
Gumert found after a male grooms a female, the likelihood that she will engage in sexual activity with the male was about three times more than if the grooming had not occurred.
And as with other commodities, the value of sex is affected by supply and demand factors: A male would spend more time grooming a female if there were fewer females in the vicinity.
“And when the female supply is higher, the male spends less time on grooming … The mating actually becomes cheaper depending on the market,” Gumert said.
The study does not mention the macaque LB scene and its effect on the marketplace.
Seems the Sukhumvit Soi 1 plaza building that recently cleared out will get turned into a big super club? If you notice the top floor of the building is getting remodeled but not cleared out. The rest of the building is getting redone and there are some signs outside with a name. What I have heard is some Japanese and Indian investors are bankrolling a big lower suk club complex. I am all up for more clubs but will wait and see how this goes. The follow-on rumors of an Indian themed place are not doing much for my clubbing tendencies.
Since we don’t have Nana in the guide yet I can’t link to any of the bars but Nana and Patpong are coming.
I started in on Nana around 8:30. First stop was Rainbow 1. Place was starting to fill up but all in all was not busy. There were some hotties but not enough to stick around. I had one drink and left. I will admit. I have not been out in Nana since we closed the Mango but did I miss the price changes? My vodka coke was 135 baht in R1. I am assuming this new price, I thought the old one was 125, must suck for the service people and tips. I left 140 baht. 5 baht for a tip.
By 9 I was in Playschool. There were new girls for sure and the music was a little fresher. Pete must not have been around. 
He likes the old school tunes. I looked for my fav 35 kilo girl with the tats. I did not see her but saw a new girl with tats who was like 50 kilos. Then I looked closer. Same girl. Ouch. Just not the same. When the tiny, small framed Thai girls put on some weight they cease to be the attractive little spinners they were and hold no appeal for me. One drink and off to R3. 135 baht for my vodka coke.
R3 was dead at 9:15. The reason? There was like 10 girls working. That’s it. Not sure what the deal was but one would think that all the staff would be in and dancing by at least 8 or 9. I had one drink, 135 baht, and left because I did not see any of my girls and the pickings were just too slim. R3 still has the best music but then again they are playing more hip hop than the dance beats which also bummed me out.
Went to Caurosel next. The aircons seemed to be on so that helped but since it was not showtime the place was rather boring. Some girls were topless though but wearing stars. Was nice to see some tits in Nana though. The place was dead with the number off staff easily 3 times the amount of customers. Then I saw the price of my vodka coke - 150 baht. Ouch. Honestly it is just too expensive for a boring ass go-go bar. I touched base with one of my service girl friends and left.
Then I popped into G-Spot. There had some hotties and the music was cool. #68 has world-class boobs. G-Spot bugs me with their gorillas in the mist policy but what can u do?No one was really jumping out at me though and I had plans to meet a friend at the Pent so off I went.
I like to drop in on the Pent since I drink for free and I have been making good progress with some of the girls. I popped into the Coyote room and was getting settled before the place got busy. I love the coyote room but this time I was peeved about a few things. I like the member clubs because of they membership bar and the fact that you usually do not see some of the normal lower suk riff-raff. It has been talked about before though that some of the member clubs on Suk tend to get brought down from time to time by the customers that are allowed in. To be frank - I have some tats, a hair in the process of dreading and I am not the model citizen look but I know how to look the part. When I go to member club I wear pants, a nice shirt and try to present a decent front. I know the game.
So there we are in Pent and three things happened that I found irritating. 1. The dude who decided he needed to get up on the main coyote platform and dance. Don’t ever do that. It is the lamest thing ever. Worse than someone dancing at a go-go bar. In a go-go bar I have come to expect that behavior. I don’t like it but it happens but in the Pent? To the dude. Your dance moves were nothing special. To the dude’s friends. You are jut as bad for letting him do it. To the Pent management. Pull it together because no one wants to see that. 2. To the friend of said dancer dude who was wearing the shorts and ratty t-shirt. Next time go and change or show some respect for yourself by declining an invitation to a place you were not dressed for. No harm. No foul. Pent management. Politely decline customers who are not dressed for the place. Even q-bar figured that one out. 3. To the dude who came in with the 2 thai stunners. You da man. I hope they are sisters and I hope you have them both from time to time. You would have been my new hero but the fact that you sat in the coyote room and played liar’s dice brought u down a few pegs in my book. Pent management - keep the liar’s dice in the lounge since this fool was taking up the space where normally a hot coyote dancer would have been thus allowing me to ogle her ass. My guess is none of this would have happened in a place like The Resort.
I went to bail on the Pent and while I was walking out another coyote girl I have tried to connect with had sensed I was getting cold to her because she never gives me the time of day. It could be she knows about me shagging another coyote girl but they usually dance in different parts of the room so I figured that was okay. As I left she followed me out and she asked me to duck into the employee hallway for a minute. Then we ducked into one off the employee bathrooms. We made out and traded numbers. Seems the night was not a total wash.
Off to Cowboy. First stop Shark bar. Place was not as busy as usual but still tough to get a good seat. This is my favorite bar for the most part. Hot girls, great tunes and generally everyone having a good time. Less Japanese than the other busy joints and decent prices. Sure - not enough nudity but the the hottest girls tend to work where they do not have to get naked. I think the see-through outfits are plenty sexy.
We popped into Black and White. It was horrible.
So we went back to Shark. Went home around 1:30. No time for after-hours right now.
I saw a dude dancing at the Pent — not on the main stage, but on the table in front of the bit screen tv — about 3 weeks ago. He was unintentionally crowding the dancing girl, who at first didn’t notice him, and nearly knocked her off the table. For the next few minutes she tried to dance and protect herself, looking scared and irritated at the same time. Pent management did nothing.
I thought it was a one-off, but that shit has to be controlled.
My last two or three visits to Shark it has been packed with beautiful girls. My last two visits to Nana, every go go bar I’ve been in except Mandarin Club and Angelwitch have been dead.
My three favorite gogos at the moment would be Mandarin Club, Shark and Rawhide.
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“I looked for my fav 35 kilo girl…”
Is that a typo? I know Thai girls are small but I haven’t seen them THAT small. The average I’ve seen in the gogos are about 45 - 50 kilos. 35 kilos is about 77 pounds which would look pretty unhealthy and sickly.
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a - I don’t think so. Guess it depends on how tall. My ex was 35-38 kilos wet. She is very small. My current with big boobs and who is quite curvy is 49 wet. She is tall. So I would say an average thai girl who was 45-50 kilos might be chunky. I am from the US though - this whole kilo thing is complicated for me.
View all comments by smitty
smitty - 1 kilo = 2.2 pounds. i would say most thai girls average 5 ft - 5′2 ft in height. living in bkk i see a lot of petite girls but 35 kilos (77 pounds) is hard to imagine.
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I like ‘em small, but 38 kilos is really about the bottom limit for the Thai girls I’ve been with.
Most Thai girls I barfine are in the 42 to 46 kilo range (92 to 101 pounds). It’s not at all difficult to find girls under 45 kilos here, and there are plenty of 40k girls running around.
35 would be very tiny, even by Thai standards, but I know the ex Smitty is talking about and I’d put her at about 38 kilos, so he’s probably close in his estimates.
I saw 3 or 4 girls in one bar last week (Long Gun) that were all very short (say 145 cm) and probably around 35 or 36 kilos, so they’re not quite as rare as hen’s teeth.
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Whenever I see a guy dancing where he shouldn’t be (in front of “friends”), I usually just chalk it up to some folks breaking in a Thailand newbie. The only consellation you really have though is knowing that the “dancing dude” will eventually realize (2-3 visits later) what an ASS he made of himself back then.
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werewolf - you’re probably right. maybe my brain auto filters out the really tiny girls so i don’t notice them.
btw have you noticed the mess of mopeds blocking the entrance to nana these days? also notice a lot of younger thai hooligans sitting at the bottom of the broken escalator.
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The club that 3B and I are going to open up will have a trapdoor on the dance stage primed to open if the load exceeds 39 kilos - a chute delivers the lardy lovely direct to the (de)basement, for the delectation of Heavy Ho afficionados.
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I am curious about this obsession with a bar girls weight.
Is their any correlation between weight and good shag? Eg under 45kilos = good fuck, over 45 = bad sex??
Also interested how do you know a bar girls weight. Do you carry scales around?
View all comments by MSB
a - maybe my math was wrong but I have been with plenty of sub 40 kilo girls. point was - this girl had put on about 15 kilos. Just does not work when she is that small. Looked like a tick that had stayed on a dog’s leg for hours without realize it had over indulged.
j - fair point but the management at places like the pent should never allow it.
a - yes. the entrance to nana has only gotten worse lately.
pe - awesome. that should get rid of the fatties and the dudes dancing on the stage.
msb - no obsession. the point was this. this girls ideal weight range is 38-40 kilos. tops. she must be 50 kilos now. that was all. sometimes the girls stay over. yes - I have a scale. They like to weigh themselves since most do not have a scale at home. then I have this elaborate system that I take a photo, document their weight and their sexual performance. the small spinners are fun but I like the tall curvy ones too.
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Right MSB: We hear a lot from LB fanciers and the “tukta-spinner” galleria, let’s hear from a few guys who don’t mind or who, in fact, seek out athletic women.
How ’bout some balance?
My own tastes run to the more athletic sisters of the aforementioned lightweights. I like and I’ve ALWAYS liked bigger sporty women. The “mor lam sing” girls you see in the village shows and the bigger coyote chicks, beach volleyball players and Uni “gators” are MY ideal spec.
Jennifer Tilly, Katherine Zeta Jones and (Tak) Bongkot Khomarai (sp)for example, all look like a fun tumble/ cage fight/ super good time
What’s wrong with a WOMAN of 60 to 65 kilos whose weight is PROPORTIONALLY distributed over a large frame and overall physique is statuesque and voluptuous, and who KNOWS IT?
As well, if she’s got a neat and tidy “planting pattern” down there I don’t mind in the least that “Chinese farm-girl look that the Tokyo boys are so into over that shaven reddish, five o’clock shadow number.
And who cares if she’s had a kid or two as long as she’s taken care to get her fighting weight back and hasn’t been transversely gutted by one of these up-country “Cesarean” procedures so that some O.R. cowboy obstetrician could get back to his paying customers?
Cutely crafted posts from Biggy Smalls, Abdul and Mustaffa . . . . . they’d, like, bore me silly but, sure, g’head if you really must..
View all comments by thongsuk
There is a girl that I spin every once in a while that is 32 kilos (25 yrs old btw). She is tiny but don’t small and light people need love too? She’s not technically a midget according to earlier research done (see http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/06/07/mango-weekly-03-june-2007/ ) but even if she was they also need love.
Isn’t it more about the weight of the heart people.
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I think 29kg is my record, and she probably was technically a midget. According to one of her friends, it hasn’t proved too healthy for her having sex with huge membered farangs, and she has been injured internally on multiple occasions. Damaging tiny girls ain’t really my thang, so I therefore am generally quite happy with the 40-45kg range.
View all comments by Combover
I would take a porker sucking golf balls through a straw over a starfish spinner any day.
smity - impressed with the scales and photo …
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@MSB: I’m sure this question has come up before somewhere. I have a digital scale beside my bathroom door and the girls invariably stop in their way in or out of the shower and weigh themselves. I always look to see the result which has made me a pretty good judge of weights. I often guess the girl’s weight before she gets on the scale, and I rarely miss by more than a kilo. Even though I am a professed spinner-lover, my last two shags were 170 cm and 169 cm respectively (I didn’t measure… just asked them). Both were over 53 kilos, but the first one had perfect titties and was a great kisser, the second one was an enthusiastic fuck-bunny. Maybe I need to re-thing that spinner thing.
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Just to be clear - this is not a weight obsession post. My point was any of thee girls who put on 15-20 kilos over their target weight range look like they put 15-20 kilos on. I think taller or curvier ones can spread it out more easily. The little tiny ones can’t. I like em all - to be in their target weight range. Small or big.
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Sure, never took this to be a waif-spinner thread but damn, there’s just something about big-ass, well-proportioned Thai chicks like “Tak” who’ve got their confidence thing together that I find libidinously re-affirming
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What smitty was saying basically she looked like 50kilos of shyte in a 35kilo bag.
to quote one of the BadBoys films ‘I hate it when a bitch lets herself slide’
View all comments by Penfold
anyone who puts on 15 - 20 kilos would inevitably look like a fat ass (if it wasn’t a gain in muscle mass). thats 33 - 44 lbs for the non metric folks reading.
View all comments by anon
40-42 kilo girls, and on occasion up to 44 (and in a pinch 45) are the best.
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There’s a real biggun at Anglewitch. Don’t have her name. Used to be in the soap up show. Finishes up the bed show, does the angel show.
Balanced proportions; about 165cm on a large frame.
Brilliant easy smile, pretty face absolutely magnificent hooters, big ass, good legs.
Incredibly voluptuous girl.
I’d bet she’s at least 60-2 kg. now.
Who cares?
Anyway, that’s the ‘Gator spec.
Asks and gets top price. (She’s always in the mood for a good buck
Gonna barfine her and weigh her an’en i’ll get back to you.
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I agree with you on G-Spot’s #68, great behind also! I walked in there first time ever (that’s right, a BKK/Nana-newbie here! 1st post also) last Friday. Turns out #68 only does short-time since she still lives with mom who doesn’t know where she’s working! 600 Baht BF, 2000 Baht ST. I was there with some friends and it was still early. We were having too much fun partying, so I wasn’t really up for a ST at that moment. I picked up a hottie later that night in Tunnel.
Still, #68 stayed on my mind! Returned to G-Spot on Sunday and she was all over me. My friend suggested I should do her, still didn’t…..big mistake. Returned last night, several hours before my flight back to Amsterdam, but she had already been barfined by some ugly Japanese guy. She smiled and hugged me as I walked in, that’s all I saw of her…..it was 8 pm. Too bad, maybe a reason to return to BKK sometime soon!
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Even though saying this is a bit stupid. When I her girls bars and numbers mentioned it just makes me think of how many guys shes fucked and how many hookers those guys have fucked. I guess when nailing bar girls there is only sloppy seconds; 10ths,100eds,1000s? Wrap your shit up!!!!!
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@ yesman, sure you’re right…..but walking with that thought through Nana, or even just BKK, will get you no-where if you’re just there for a couple of days. The menu is clear when you visit a place like Nana, if you ask me……just my 2 cents!
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@ Yesman - Saw a cute spinner get BF’ed 3 seperate times by 3 seperate japs in the space of a football match while sitting @ a beerbar outside rainbow 1. This was early on in the night aswell. The pros must be in the thousands before long
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What is a coyote dancer really called in English dude. I want to translate it from Thai to English.
View all comments by ket
I think in both languages it is called coyote.
The thais will put the thaiglish on it like - kaiyotee but it is the same.
feel better?
View all comments by smitty
still doubt but thanks, I think coyote dance in Thai is from a Hollywood movie called Coyote Ugly that features American cheerleader team, they also dance in bar at night to earn some money for academic fees–if I am not wrong
Since then coyote dance is general used in Thailand, meaning girl dancers in kinky bodysuit, mostly at the motor show — some time refer to a bar girl or a so-called rent wife
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ket - not really sure what the question is. Yes - I think everyone got it from that movie but I have never really seen it in America. Only in Asia - so not sure what they call it in the States but everyone I know refers to it as coyote dancing.
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Thanx,
I put it as sexy-girl dance as I translated from Thai to English for Farang readers,
Hope they understand
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ket -
the farang won’t understand since they are not used to young, hot, sexy, nice looking girls wearing skimpy outfits dancing on the bar.
in america they would be the fat, ugly girls dancing on the bar. the ones no one wants to see.
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