Comments on: Our Place(Soi Cowboy) may be your place but it’s not my place… http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/ Insiders take on Thailand - Take 2 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:16:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Off the wagon… at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-30757 Off the wagon… at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:15:33 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-30757 [...] will look like all of his other bars. So original. All the girls from Spice have been deported to Our Place so they can get used to their new bar layout and overabundance of [...] [...] will look like all of his other bars. So original. All the girls from Spice have been deported to Our Place so they can get used to their new bar layout and overabundance of [...]
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]]> By: Doorman on Cowboy by Jase at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-26601 Doorman on Cowboy by Jase at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much Sun, 30 Sep 2007 03:11:04 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-26601 [...] note:  We have written about Our Place before and I am not a big fan but this is post by someone who used to work there.  They’re there [...] [...] note:  We have written about Our Place before and I am not a big fan but this is post by someone who used to work there.  They’re there [...]
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]]> By: smitty http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-24512 smitty Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:07:55 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-24512 j - I hear - was not trying to be a pain about it. What is funny is I think all of his places are not doing well but yet he continues to do the same thing. He has money anyway so I am not sure if his bars doing well or not matters to him. His attitude is similar to the slum king, I mean go-go king, of Nana. The crown group. They seem to make money or just enough so they don't care. My guess is it is the same deal with this guy. He has money and makes enough to not really care. One would think pride or ego would start to take over and one would want to have bars people actually like. Oh well. I guess deep down I hope no one goes to our place so that it fails. It seems to be the case that with Spankys doing so bad in Nana that he wants out. Cowboy is pretty busy as late so all the bars seem to be doing okay - decent or not. Oh well. good stuff... j - I hear - was not trying to be a pain about it.

What is funny is I think all of his places are not doing well but yet he continues to do the same thing. He has money anyway so I am not sure if his bars doing well or not matters to him. His attitude is similar to the slum king, I mean go-go king, of Nana. The crown group. They seem to make money or just enough so they don’t care. My guess is it is the same deal with this guy. He has money and makes enough to not really care. One would think pride or ego would start to take over and one would want to have bars people actually like.

Oh well. I guess deep down I hope no one goes to our place so that it fails. It seems to be the case that with Spankys doing so bad in Nana that he wants out. Cowboy is pretty busy as late so all the bars seem to be doing okay - decent or not.

Oh well. good stuff…
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]]> By: Jase http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-24505 Jase Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:31:59 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-24505 Smitty - I know it's my personal experiences (I thought I mentioned it several times) - Our Place is definitely not a good bar for those that like to cruise the gogo scene or who have had good experiences in other clubs prior to first entering. I took a group of mates there a while ago and all hated it and we ended up going to LG. I just thought I'd provide my own experiences and insights so that readers get to see the other side of the coin. If you like getting attached to one place rather than trawling the scene (not that there is anything wrong with that), Our Place should be a club you consider due to there being less competition and being a good quality of people employed (not too many yaabaa'd up girls and beautiful girls with zero personality that are barfined everyday several times). As a rule now, whenever I bring FOBs or mates to Soi Cowboy I will take them to LG or Baccara or just a general trawl through all the bars because I know that Our Place wouldn't be their thing. As to the comments about the way the bar is being run, I fully agree. The wasting of money on lights, shithouse shows and making Our Place similar to all the other bars and not making it unique have put the bar in a position where it is likely to start losing a lot of money. I met with the owner, who is concerned that the club is losing money, I suggested that he cut back on lighting and reinvest the money on girls and making the bar more unique, but he decided that I was too young (22) to take seriously and decided that to put on shithouse shows would attract more customers. Those shows are so shit that I can't even watch them - even at the start when he had the cream of the dancers from the other bars doing them. Talking to the girls, none of them want to perform the shows and none of them supported the bringing in of the shows. Maybe when it eventually goes bankrupt due to the owner's stupid decisions, we can get together and use it for the Big Mango's foray into the gogo scene ;) I'd happily get involved in that ;) Smitty - I know it’s my personal experiences (I thought I mentioned it several times) - Our Place is definitely not a good bar for those that like to cruise the gogo scene or who have had good experiences in other clubs prior to first entering. I took a group of mates there a while ago and all hated it and we ended up going to LG. I just thought I’d provide my own experiences and insights so that readers get to see the other side of the coin.

If you like getting attached to one place rather than trawling the scene (not that there is anything wrong with that), Our Place should be a club you consider due to there being less competition and being a good quality of people employed (not too many yaabaa’d up girls and beautiful girls with zero personality that are barfined everyday several times). As a rule now, whenever I bring FOBs or mates to Soi Cowboy I will take them to LG or Baccara or just a general trawl through all the bars because I know that Our Place wouldn’t be their thing.

As to the comments about the way the bar is being run, I fully agree. The wasting of money on lights, shithouse shows and making Our Place similar to all the other bars and not making it unique have put the bar in a position where it is likely to start losing a lot of money. I met with the owner, who is concerned that the club is losing money, I suggested that he cut back on lighting and reinvest the money on girls and making the bar more unique, but he decided that I was too young (22) to take seriously and decided that to put on shithouse shows would attract more customers. Those shows are so shit that I can’t even watch them - even at the start when he had the cream of the dancers from the other bars doing them. Talking to the girls, none of them want to perform the shows and none of them supported the bringing in of the shows.

Maybe when it eventually goes bankrupt due to the owner’s stupid decisions, we can get together and use it for the Big Mango’s foray into the gogo scene ;) I’d happily get involved in that ;)
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]]> By: smitty http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-24171 smitty Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:17:44 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-24171 jase - no offense to you but what you are describing is your personal experience and attachment to the bar. I can imagine that each and every one of us can feel the same way about any bar if one invests the time and the money. People may hate lg but I have been going for years and treated like a king there but that does not mean it is a great bar. What I am describing is the general reaction to anyone walking into the bar and wanting to have a good time. Our place, along with all the bars owned by the same guy, are over time getting worse and worse. He has equalized his bad practices of running any one bar into running multiple bars. Rumor is he is buying even more. I can't stand any one of his individual bars and I can only see it getting worse. Some of his bars, prior to buying them, I actually liked and now they are going downhill. You bring up some great points and confirm my suspicions. So I am sure for you going to Our place is still fun but I don't think many people experience it the same way you do. thanks for the comments and inside information! jase - no offense to you but what you are describing is your personal experience and attachment to the bar. I can imagine that each and every one of us can feel the same way about any bar if one invests the time and the money. People may hate lg but I have been going for years and treated like a king there but that does not mean it is a great bar.

What I am describing is the general reaction to anyone walking into the bar and wanting to have a good time. Our place, along with all the bars owned by the same guy, are over time getting worse and worse. He has equalized his bad practices of running any one bar into running multiple bars. Rumor is he is buying even more. I can’t stand any one of his individual bars and I can only see it getting worse. Some of his bars, prior to buying them, I actually liked and now they are going downhill.

You bring up some great points and confirm my suspicions. So I am sure for you going to Our place is still fun but I don’t think many people experience it the same way you do.

thanks for the comments and inside information!
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]]> By: Jase http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-24141 Jase Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:00:59 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-24141 It obviously looks like I'm the odd one out here - yes Our Place is not the greatest bar in Soi Cowboy, but it's the first one I ever went to and has some sentimental value for that. I've also spent a lot of time in it and I actually worked as a bouncer for Our Place for a short time. For people who like to cruise the go-go scene, yes I can admit, it would be terrible, but for someone who actually stays and gets to know the whole staff, it is a good bar and the service is so much better for me than at any other bar. I have been disapointed with Baccara and Long gun the last few times I went. The 'evil' mamasan does look a bit scary, but when you get to know her she is actually really nice and really funny, on several occasions I've only sat with her and not any of the dancers. Yes, there are a large proportion of girls that don't rate high on the beauty scale, but hasn't it already been proved that those girls perform better in the sack? The 'fat' girl mentioned in the post is either Dtae or the girl with the koi tattooed on her thigh, Dtae is very nice but she is yaabaa'd up on some nights, not as much as many other girls I've encountered in the soi. The girl with the koi is new and I haven't had the chance to talk with her yet. The best BG I've ever barfined and have done on numerous occasions came from Our Place, Ning, an 8 on the attractive scale. Sunday nights are shithouse at Our Place, it's much more alive on Friday and Saturday nights. I don't know about you guys, but I prefer a bar where I'm not competing with a big mass of other guys for the girls attention as occurs in bars like Baccara. The two best and funniest guys I've ever met and worked with were the two bouncers P'lek and P'Ko. This guys were guys who you could laugh and joke with for hours on end and it's what I did on many occasions. They gave me so many insights into life on soi cowboy and a different that a huge majority of the people that frequent the soi will never know or come across. When I return to BKK, the first club I will go to will be Our Place, but it's each to their own... btw, the owner is a tosser, I met him on several occasions and he even gave me a big handshake on my last night in BKK and said thankyou for all the business I gave him and for working for him. None of the staff like him and they all want to change the bar to be more unique. One of the mamasans even told me that she wanted me to save as much money as I could and take over the bar and change it to be more successful. Following up on the comment in the article about the amount spent on lights vs dancers, the bar is actually short on dancers because of this problem. The owner refuses to listen to me when I bring it up or any of the other problems (ie the shows). Just as point, the khatoey you mentioned is a khatoey, I know for sure (I guessed and the staff and mamasan confirmed, as a joke P'lek tried to set me up with her/him) It obviously looks like I’m the odd one out here - yes Our Place is not the greatest bar in Soi Cowboy, but it’s the first one I ever went to and has some sentimental value for that. I’ve also spent a lot of time in it and I actually worked as a bouncer for Our Place for a short time. For people who like to cruise the go-go scene, yes I can admit, it would be terrible, but for someone who actually stays and gets to know the whole staff, it is a good bar and the service is so much better for me than at any other bar. I have been disapointed with Baccara and Long gun the last few times I went. The ‘evil’ mamasan does look a bit scary, but when you get to know her she is actually really nice and really funny, on several occasions I’ve only sat with her and not any of the dancers. Yes, there are a large proportion of girls that don’t rate high on the beauty scale, but hasn’t it already been proved that those girls perform better in the sack? The ‘fat’ girl mentioned in the post is either Dtae or the girl with the koi tattooed on her thigh, Dtae is very nice but she is yaabaa’d up on some nights, not as much as many other girls I’ve encountered in the soi. The girl with the koi is new and I haven’t had the chance to talk with her yet. The best BG I’ve ever barfined and have done on numerous occasions came from Our Place, Ning, an 8 on the attractive scale. Sunday nights are shithouse at Our Place, it’s much more alive on Friday and Saturday nights. I don’t know about you guys, but I prefer a bar where I’m not competing with a big mass of other guys for the girls attention as occurs in bars like Baccara. The two best and funniest guys I’ve ever met and worked with were the two bouncers P’lek and P’Ko. This guys were guys who you could laugh and joke with for hours on end and it’s what I did on many occasions. They gave me so many insights into life on soi cowboy and a different that a huge majority of the people that frequent the soi will never know or come across. When I return to BKK, the first club I will go to will be Our Place, but it’s each to their own…

btw, the owner is a tosser, I met him on several occasions and he even gave me a big handshake on my last night in BKK and said thankyou for all the business I gave him and for working for him. None of the staff like him and they all want to change the bar to be more unique. One of the mamasans even told me that she wanted me to save as much money as I could and take over the bar and change it to be more successful. Following up on the comment in the article about the amount spent on lights vs dancers, the bar is actually short on dancers because of this problem. The owner refuses to listen to me when I bring it up or any of the other problems (ie the shows). Just as point, the khatoey you mentioned is a khatoey, I know for sure (I guessed and the staff and mamasan confirmed, as a joke P’lek tried to set me up with her/him)
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]]> By: werewolf http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-23424 werewolf Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:39:11 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-23424 I'm happy to contribute to the fund, and if you're looking for a manager I can make myself available. Can we make it a Cowboy venue? It would help with your diversification of location, it's near my home, and -- oh yeah -- we can have the lovelies dancing nude from dusk to dawn. I’m happy to contribute to the fund, and if you’re looking for a manager I can make myself available. Can we make it a Cowboy venue? It would help with your diversification of location, it’s near my home, and — oh yeah — we can have the lovelies dancing nude from dusk to dawn.
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]]> By: myspace.com/penfold_xxx http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-23337 myspace.com/penfold_xxx Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:05:16 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-23337 i couldnt agree more - i would rather have 1 bar to be proud of, then an empire of bars that are absolute toilet in the scheme of things id hazard a guess that owning 1 bar like baccara despite its size would be more successful, cost effective,profitable and easier to run then 4-5 shoddy bars scattered between nana and cowboy? some people obviously have more cash then sense, which is a shame because i think nana expecially could do with some new blood on the go-go scene to keep the others on there toes otherwise it all gets a bit stagnent i dont know about donations, but if you did set one up and your gogo was as good as your nachos id certainly drink there ;0) i couldnt agree more - i would rather have 1 bar to be proud of, then an empire of bars that are absolute toilet
in the scheme of things id hazard a guess that owning 1 bar like baccara despite its size would be more successful, cost effective,profitable and easier to run then 4-5 shoddy bars scattered between nana and cowboy?

some people obviously have more cash then sense, which is a shame because i think nana expecially could do with some new blood on the go-go scene to keep the others on there toes otherwise it all gets a bit stagnent
i dont know about donations, but if you did set one up and your gogo was as good as your nachos id certainly drink there ;0)
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]]> By: smitty http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-23335 smitty Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:39:12 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-23335 I dont his name and they call him the arab but I think he is quite well monied and seems to want to get much bigger in the local scene. I agree with u that it would be better to do some things really well. Not meaning u can't have more than one joint but try to make them great places. Not cookie cutter imitations of each other. We will be starting the mango a go-go fund and will put out a bank account number soon to send your donations. Thanks :) I dont his name and they call him the arab but I think he is quite well monied and seems to want to get much bigger in the local scene. I agree with u that it would be better to do some things really well. Not meaning u can’t have more than one joint but try to make them great places. Not cookie cutter imitations of each other.

We will be starting the mango a go-go fund and will put out a bank account number soon to send your donations. Thanks

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]]> By: myspace.com/penfold_xxx http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-23331 myspace.com/penfold_xxx Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:23:28 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/09/18/our-place-may-be-your-place-but-its-not-my-place/#comment-23331 does he have a name or an 'alias'? i heard someone talking about an 'arab' snapping up loadsa places? puzzles me why so many owners make a hash of running a go-go, also as in this guys case and also the crown grouops case why they are more content to have 4-5 mediocre or worse bars, when they could focus on 2 really buzzing bars - pay the girls higher wages and they'd be packed out decent music, decent girls, decent decor (not talking shagpile carpet and gold fittings) and well priced drinks - hardly rocket science why dont the mango boys have a dig at it? does he have a name or an ‘alias’?
i heard someone talking about an ‘arab’ snapping up loadsa places?

puzzles me why so many owners make a hash of running a go-go, also as in this guys case and also the crown grouops case why they are more content to have 4-5 mediocre or worse bars, when they could focus on 2 really buzzing bars - pay the girls higher wages and they’d be packed out
decent music, decent girls, decent decor (not talking shagpile carpet and gold fittings) and well priced drinks - hardly rocket science
why dont the mango boys have a dig at it?
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