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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yr - I say forgo the membership for a bit and try some 7/11 pulls or follow them to the after hours spots. They are there. Saves some membership coin as well.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yr - I say forgo the membership for a bit and try some 7/11 pulls or follow them to the after hours spots. They are there. Saves some membership coin as well.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.tfs2m.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/62563103" rel="nofollow">View all comments by smitty</a></p>
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		<title>By: Young Royal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Young Royal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Progressed...not sure what that word was I made up but you know what I meant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progressed&#8230;not sure what that word was I made up but you know what I meant.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/1044836152" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Young Royal</a></p>
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		<title>By: Young Royal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Young Royal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live right next to Soprano's and have never tried it.  Reading all these blogs recently I will have to give it a go and take out a membership. Sometimes on my way out to party (about 1-2pm) I see amazingly hot girls in the 7/11 on 26. Going on the quality I guess they come from Soprano's.

Smitty am with you my tastes progressived very quickly to Asian tastes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live right next to Soprano&#8217;s and have never tried it.  Reading all these blogs recently I will have to give it a go and take out a membership. Sometimes on my way out to party (about 1-2pm) I see amazingly hot girls in the 7/11 on 26. Going on the quality I guess they come from Soprano&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Smitty am with you my tastes progressived very quickly to Asian tastes.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/1044836152" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Young Royal</a></p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI. most also have one level down that includes just your booze and discounts - no lady drinks. These work out to be about the same cost as opening a bottle in any bar but you get discounts and the member card. Seems pretty easy deal to me. Also with member card you can book tables, call ahead and seem to get better attention from mamasans and girls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI. most also have one level down that includes just your booze and discounts - no lady drinks. These work out to be about the same cost as opening a bottle in any bar but you get discounts and the member card. Seems pretty easy deal to me. Also with member card you can book tables, call ahead and seem to get better attention from mamasans and girls.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/62563103" rel="nofollow">View all comments by smitty</a></p>
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		<title>By: mochalover</title>
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		<dc:creator>mochalover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few words on g-club membership fees. Each club is a bit different, so lets use Sopranos as an example.

You can haggle to get perhaps 50 lady drinks and 11 bottles of spirit for 30,000 baht annual membership. This means you have one year to use up your booze, after that any you did not consume is lost. If you do use up all your booze before the end of one year, then you need to take out a new membership. 

You get about 25 drinks per bottle of spirit. So - that makes about 325 drinks in total for 30,000 baht or about 90 baht a drink.....but you also pay for mixers each evening to take it up to about 140-150 bht a drink. Once the lady drinks run out, you start paying about 250 bht a drink for the girls. The girls might also ask for cocktails and more expensive drinks or ask you to buy drinks for their friends - so watch out and be firm about matters!

If you just drink the mixers, they charge a lot....maybe 200 bht for a glass of coke (!). Beer costs 250 bht a bottle - if you are a member or not. I think you might be able to get a membership that is based on beers rather than bottles of spirit, but don't know the details.

If you are a non-member, you pay 800 bht entry fee (some people have negotiated this down to 500 bht on slow nights). Even as a member, if you bring a girl with you then you then you also have to pay 800 bht for her entry fee.

It all sounds expensive. But if you negotiate right and control the girls consumption when you are in the club, then it really is not that bad - just that you are paying in advance in one lump sum for your drinks.

But for guys that find 120 bht for a beer in Nana too much, or want to get laid for sure the same night they talk to a hottie, then g-clubs are not recommended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few words on g-club membership fees. Each club is a bit different, so lets use Sopranos as an example.</p>
<p>You can haggle to get perhaps 50 lady drinks and 11 bottles of spirit for 30,000 baht annual membership. This means you have one year to use up your booze, after that any you did not consume is lost. If you do use up all your booze before the end of one year, then you need to take out a new membership. </p>
<p>You get about 25 drinks per bottle of spirit. So - that makes about 325 drinks in total for 30,000 baht or about 90 baht a drink&#8230;..but you also pay for mixers each evening to take it up to about 140-150 bht a drink. Once the lady drinks run out, you start paying about 250 bht a drink for the girls. The girls might also ask for cocktails and more expensive drinks or ask you to buy drinks for their friends - so watch out and be firm about matters!</p>
<p>If you just drink the mixers, they charge a lot&#8230;.maybe 200 bht for a glass of coke (!). Beer costs 250 bht a bottle - if you are a member or not. I think you might be able to get a membership that is based on beers rather than bottles of spirit, but don&#8217;t know the details.</p>
<p>If you are a non-member, you pay 800 bht entry fee (some people have negotiated this down to 500 bht on slow nights). Even as a member, if you bring a girl with you then you then you also have to pay 800 bht for her entry fee.</p>
<p>It all sounds expensive. But if you negotiate right and control the girls consumption when you are in the club, then it really is not that bad - just that you are paying in advance in one lump sum for your drinks.</p>
<p>But for guys that find 120 bht for a beer in Nana too much, or want to get laid for sure the same night they talk to a hottie, then g-clubs are not recommended.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/1512262913" rel="nofollow">View all comments by mochalover</a></p>
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		<title>By: mochalover</title>
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		<dc:creator>mochalover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forte vs Sopranos? I'm a member of both, a frequent visitor to The Resort (Ratchada Soi 13) and occasional visitor to Ritz, Caribbean and Pent.

I'd agree with PMMP - to me Soprano's has a slight edge in terms of lookers, layout and entertainment. But they are both farang-friendly and have plenty of girls who speak enough English to have fun. Each has special nights (dance competitions, model nights, launch parties, visiting music acts) that might mean one is better than the other on any particular evening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forte vs Sopranos? I&#8217;m a member of both, a frequent visitor to The Resort (Ratchada Soi 13) and occasional visitor to Ritz, Caribbean and Pent.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d agree with PMMP - to me Soprano&#8217;s has a slight edge in terms of lookers, layout and entertainment. But they are both farang-friendly and have plenty of girls who speak enough English to have fun. Each has special nights (dance competitions, model nights, launch parties, visiting music acts) that might mean one is better than the other on any particular evening.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/1512262913" rel="nofollow">View all comments by mochalover</a></p>
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		<title>By: pmmp</title>
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		<dc:creator>pmmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the-a: My 2 cents on Forte vs Sopranos. Sopranos is the top g-club imho but I've only been to about five in total. Top notch ladies, amazing service, and first class entertainers. Definitely worth the membership. Forte is no slouch though. Also top notch and if you want to party in RCA the locale is perfect.

Mochalover was kind enough to invite me over on his membership to the Sopranos. My first visit was quite memorable. I couldn't believe how good the shows were and there were so many world class stunners. My eyes were popping out of my head.

I'm not a big g-club fan but I must admit that it's a great place to entertain business associates and friends from out of town. Just one more offering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the-a: My 2 cents on Forte vs Sopranos. Sopranos is the top g-club imho but I&#8217;ve only been to about five in total. Top notch ladies, amazing service, and first class entertainers. Definitely worth the membership. Forte is no slouch though. Also top notch and if you want to party in RCA the locale is perfect.</p>
<p>Mochalover was kind enough to invite me over on his membership to the Sopranos. My first visit was quite memorable. I couldn&#8217;t believe how good the shows were and there were so many world class stunners. My eyes were popping out of my head.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a big g-club fan but I must admit that it&#8217;s a great place to entertain business associates and friends from out of town. Just one more offering.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/3165243443" rel="nofollow">View all comments by pmmp</a></p>
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		<title>By: the-adventurer</title>
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		<dc:creator>the-adventurer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mocha,

interested to know your thoughts on forte vs sopranos.  I live near the latter, but dont want to fork out unless its the better of the 2 options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mocha,</p>
<p>interested to know your thoughts on forte vs sopranos.  I live near the latter, but dont want to fork out unless its the better of the 2 options.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/2078742509" rel="nofollow">View all comments by the-adventurer</a></p>
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		<title>By: werewolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>werewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C'mon... CB has got to be a put on, right!? If he really is genuine then Smitty's advice is perfect, but I reckon the guy has to be a long term BKK resident whose having a giggle impersonating an FOB. :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon&#8230; CB has got to be a put on, right!? If he really is genuine then Smitty&#8217;s advice is perfect, but I reckon the guy has to be a long term BKK resident whose having a giggle impersonating an FOB. :p<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/2949289478" rel="nofollow">View all comments by werewolf</a></p>
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		<title>By: mochalover</title>
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		<dc:creator>mochalover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 12:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AUK - unless you plan to stay in Thailand for quite a while, I would frankly advise against going to any G-club - there are much better options for short-term visitors. Nana, Cowboy or the Massage Parlors, for example.

But if you do want to check out a g-club, then Forte is a good place to start. It is on RCA but far down from Rama 9 towards Petchburi on the right side as you go in that direction.

I'm not sure if you are kidding or not, but 20,000 bath per year should read 20,000 baht per year, the baht being the currency of Thailand. That is about equal to US$620.

You don't have to buy a g-club membership to visit most g-clubs. They will let you in for a 'trial look and see' evening which is what I would advise if you are not familiar with the g-club scene or do not plan to stay in Bangkok for very long. But you will pay a LOT for your drinks during any trial evening (probably 2-3 times what you might pay in any go-go bar).

Otherwise, you can buy a membership. Although the membership lasts one year, in actual fact it runs out when all the drinks you have on your membership plan are used up. You can negotiate with the sales people about how much booze you get on your plan, including lady drinks. If you do this well, the end result is drinks that cost you perhaps 30-50% more than a normal go-go. Don't take any notice of what they claim to offer in their plans - haggle. They all need more members these days.

And yes, the membership is usually based around the number of bottles of Whisky or Chivas you are basically buying in advance, plus a nominated amount of lady drinks plus perhaps time in a private karaoke or entertainment room. You only pay for mixers for the drinks until you use up your lady drink quota and/or your booze.

There are plenty of other posts on Big Mango that tell you a lot more about how to play the g-club scene. But some advice here:

- dress smartly
- be firm about what girls you do and do not want to join your table
- be aware of the difference between the "pretties" who are the hostess girls and the dancers - they cost differently for drinks and the time you spend with them. 
- Don't even think about 'bar-fining' any girl from a g-club. It is extraordinarily expensive and not worthwhile because all that it means is that you get to take them out somewhere else that evening. It does not mean that you get to take them back to your room. Work instead on getting phone numbers to see during the day, on nights off (most g-club girls only work a few evenings a week)or hang around until closing time to go on partying at the after-hours scene.
- very few of the girls in the g-clubs take money for sex - unlike Massage Parlors, Nana, Cowboy and Soi 33. Some do.....but you have to be bold and ask sales ladies and perhaps frequent customers to know which ones. View these girls as medium to long term projects. This does not mean you can't pick up and have a g-club girl in your room in one evening (it does happen) but it is rare and you will only get into grief if you treat the girls as if that is what they do.

I view the g-clubs as places to entertain business associates while working on long-term projects with stunning girls. They usually have great shows, guest acts and bands that seriously rock. The dancers are enthusiastic and sexy. 

Everyone's taste is different, but for myself I seem to have become more "Asian" in my tastes the longer I have been in Bangkok. I really only go for very tall, very slim, very fair young girls (below 24) that are reasonably smart (probably going to University in Bangkok), do not come from a very poor rural family and do not have family and sick water buffalo issues or children. It helps if they can speak English reasonably well, have not had sex with dozens of different men in the last year and have the right attitude.

Maybe it is just that I have been lucky, but I have found a rich vein of exactly such girls in the g-clubs. Many others have not, and hate the places as rip-off joints. I can understand that perspective, because I felt the same way myself once (having done business in Japan for many years, which is full of this style of club).

So - to repeat - approach the g-clubs with caution. They are not to everyones taste, but perhaps appeal more to guys staying in Bangkok for a longer period of time that conduct business in the country that involves frequent amounts of entertaining foreign and Thai guests. They are also a good change of scene from the regular spots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AUK - unless you plan to stay in Thailand for quite a while, I would frankly advise against going to any G-club - there are much better options for short-term visitors. Nana, Cowboy or the Massage Parlors, for example.</p>
<p>But if you do want to check out a g-club, then Forte is a good place to start. It is on RCA but far down from Rama 9 towards Petchburi on the right side as you go in that direction.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if you are kidding or not, but 20,000 bath per year should read 20,000 baht per year, the baht being the currency of Thailand. That is about equal to US$620.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to buy a g-club membership to visit most g-clubs. They will let you in for a &#8216;trial look and see&#8217; evening which is what I would advise if you are not familiar with the g-club scene or do not plan to stay in Bangkok for very long. But you will pay a LOT for your drinks during any trial evening (probably 2-3 times what you might pay in any go-go bar).</p>
<p>Otherwise, you can buy a membership. Although the membership lasts one year, in actual fact it runs out when all the drinks you have on your membership plan are used up. You can negotiate with the sales people about how much booze you get on your plan, including lady drinks. If you do this well, the end result is drinks that cost you perhaps 30-50% more than a normal go-go. Don&#8217;t take any notice of what they claim to offer in their plans - haggle. They all need more members these days.</p>
<p>And yes, the membership is usually based around the number of bottles of Whisky or Chivas you are basically buying in advance, plus a nominated amount of lady drinks plus perhaps time in a private karaoke or entertainment room. You only pay for mixers for the drinks until you use up your lady drink quota and/or your booze.</p>
<p>There are plenty of other posts on Big Mango that tell you a lot more about how to play the g-club scene. But some advice here:</p>
<p>- dress smartly<br />
- be firm about what girls you do and do not want to join your table<br />
- be aware of the difference between the &#8220;pretties&#8221; who are the hostess girls and the dancers - they cost differently for drinks and the time you spend with them.<br />
- Don&#8217;t even think about &#8216;bar-fining&#8217; any girl from a g-club. It is extraordinarily expensive and not worthwhile because all that it means is that you get to take them out somewhere else that evening. It does not mean that you get to take them back to your room. Work instead on getting phone numbers to see during the day, on nights off (most g-club girls only work a few evenings a week)or hang around until closing time to go on partying at the after-hours scene.<br />
- very few of the girls in the g-clubs take money for sex - unlike Massage Parlors, Nana, Cowboy and Soi 33. Some do&#8230;..but you have to be bold and ask sales ladies and perhaps frequent customers to know which ones. View these girls as medium to long term projects. This does not mean you can&#8217;t pick up and have a g-club girl in your room in one evening (it does happen) but it is rare and you will only get into grief if you treat the girls as if that is what they do.</p>
<p>I view the g-clubs as places to entertain business associates while working on long-term projects with stunning girls. They usually have great shows, guest acts and bands that seriously rock. The dancers are enthusiastic and sexy. </p>
<p>Everyone&#8217;s taste is different, but for myself I seem to have become more &#8220;Asian&#8221; in my tastes the longer I have been in Bangkok. I really only go for very tall, very slim, very fair young girls (below 24) that are reasonably smart (probably going to University in Bangkok), do not come from a very poor rural family and do not have family and sick water buffalo issues or children. It helps if they can speak English reasonably well, have not had sex with dozens of different men in the last year and have the right attitude.</p>
<p>Maybe it is just that I have been lucky, but I have found a rich vein of exactly such girls in the g-clubs. Many others have not, and hate the places as rip-off joints. I can understand that perspective, because I felt the same way myself once (having done business in Japan for many years, which is full of this style of club).</p>
<p>So - to repeat - approach the g-clubs with caution. They are not to everyones taste, but perhaps appeal more to guys staying in Bangkok for a longer period of time that conduct business in the country that involves frequent amounts of entertaining foreign and Thai guests. They are also a good change of scene from the regular spots.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/1512262913" rel="nofollow">View all comments by mochalover</a></p>
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