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	<title>Comments on: Vans, porn karaoke, sausage mcmuffins and Pattaya - Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Indu WangZi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indu WangZi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marine disco the best...yeah, I gotta disagree here.  While I think it is a great disco, Lucifer's has it beat.  The live music...the talent..the size of the space. Some of the best evenings I have had in Pattaya have been at Lucifer's...

Can't really go wrong with either, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marine disco the best&#8230;yeah, I gotta disagree here.  While I think it is a great disco, Lucifer&#8217;s has it beat.  The live music&#8230;the talent..the size of the space. Some of the best evenings I have had in Pattaya have been at Lucifer&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t really go wrong with either, though.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/832022793" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Indu WangZi</a></p>
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		<title>By: nampla</title>
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		<dc:creator>nampla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was in FLB bar recently with a friend, good looking guy. Met an American private security guy working in Iraq, full of shrapnel in his ass etc. Nice guy from Boston great raconteur on R &#38; R. Got drinking. Group of six girls on nearby table invite them for a drink. Nothing but Hi-So type bitchy comments in Thai, sort of reply you get in snooty London or New York night clubs. They then tried to come over a short while later. We said nothing but politely drank up and left. Used to be quite nice and chilled I remember but will never go back. If I want bitchy put downs I'll go To Manchester or Leeds where it is a ntaional sport but not in LOS. Bad bitchy vibe but maybe different for you !!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was in FLB bar recently with a friend, good looking guy. Met an American private security guy working in Iraq, full of shrapnel in his ass etc. Nice guy from Boston great raconteur on R &amp; R. Got drinking. Group of six girls on nearby table invite them for a drink. Nothing but Hi-So type bitchy comments in Thai, sort of reply you get in snooty London or New York night clubs. They then tried to come over a short while later. We said nothing but politely drank up and left. Used to be quite nice and chilled I remember but will never go back. If I want bitchy put downs I&#8217;ll go To Manchester or Leeds where it is a ntaional sport but not in LOS. Bad bitchy vibe but maybe different for you !!!!!<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/1642074802" rel="nofollow">View all comments by nampla</a></p>
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		<title>By: myspace.com/penfold_xxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>myspace.com/penfold_xxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiger in Phuket is a breeding ground for freebies, so is Safari which im a fan of aswell - went at xmas last year though an over-run with chino shorted bumbag wearing grandads

Marine is killer though, wall to wall minky and good music, i was never blown away by the gogos in pattaya though - im suprised rainbow group havent set up shop there, unless they have

For sheer filth soi6 cant be beaten - if any1 knows of anwhere filthier please let me know</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiger in Phuket is a breeding ground for freebies, so is Safari which im a fan of aswell - went at xmas last year though an over-run with chino shorted bumbag wearing grandads</p>
<p>Marine is killer though, wall to wall minky and good music, i was never blown away by the gogos in pattaya though - im suprised rainbow group havent set up shop there, unless they have</p>
<p>For sheer filth soi6 cant be beaten - if any1 knows of anwhere filthier please let me know<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/2597614086" rel="nofollow">View all comments by myspace.com/penfold_xxx</a></p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CO - marine has some of the euro trash feel but what doesn't in Pattaya these days. it is a great FL scene though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CO - marine has some of the euro trash feel but what doesn&#8217;t in Pattaya these days. it is a great FL scene though.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/62563103" rel="nofollow">View all comments by smitty</a></p>
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		<title>By: day walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>day walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. Costs...  I think the bigger of the two party rooms cost about 9000 for the 2 nights...  It cost me a total of 12k as we wiped out both minibars in my room.  Pmmps minibar was untouched... - we didn't want to wake him up ;)

Difinately a good idea to take a load of booze to your room before the clubs kick out..  We did this also.. but still managed to drink the place dry!

tip... don't mistake the complementary KY for toothpaste ;)

Another tip... CHECK carefully before settling on a porn channel in the room.  It might be GAY PORN - FOD made this mistake... or was it a mistake?!?!?!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. Costs&#8230;  I think the bigger of the two party rooms cost about 9000 for the 2 nights&#8230;  It cost me a total of 12k as we wiped out both minibars in my room.  Pmmps minibar was untouched&#8230; - we didn&#8217;t want to wake him up <img src='http://www.tfs2m.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Difinately a good idea to take a load of booze to your room before the clubs kick out..  We did this also.. but still managed to drink the place dry!</p>
<p>tip&#8230; don&#8217;t mistake the complementary KY for toothpaste <img src='http://www.tfs2m.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Another tip&#8230; CHECK carefully before settling on a porn channel in the room.  It might be GAY PORN - FOD made this mistake&#8230; or was it a mistake?!?!?!?!<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/1106712472" rel="nofollow">View all comments by day walker</a></p>
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		<title>By: Combover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Combover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never done well in Marine 1 personally. It's been a while admittedly but I prefer a house to a techno vibe. Plus I generally found it cock heavy and populated by unsmiling, narcissistic Eurotrash (who were also younger and better looking than me so praps that was the crunch). I have similar feelings about the likes of Tiger in Phuket, Green Mango in Samui etc.

Still, each to their own. There's plenty for all of us if we spread ourselves thin! Or even if we don't actually... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never done well in Marine 1 personally. It&#8217;s been a while admittedly but I prefer a house to a techno vibe. Plus I generally found it cock heavy and populated by unsmiling, narcissistic Eurotrash (who were also younger and better looking than me so praps that was the crunch). I have similar feelings about the likes of Tiger in Phuket, Green Mango in Samui etc.</p>
<p>Still, each to their own. There&#8217;s plenty for all of us if we spread ourselves thin! Or even if we don&#8217;t actually&#8230; <img src='http://www.tfs2m.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/3280461592" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Combover</a></p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DW - I forgot.

My 2 hash browns and 1 mcmuffin when fresh were the bomb.

later than morning my 1 muffin was still okay but ditched the browns.

the hot tub seemed to suffer the most damage...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DW - I forgot.</p>
<p>My 2 hash browns and 1 mcmuffin when fresh were the bomb.</p>
<p>later than morning my 1 muffin was still okay but ditched the browns.</p>
<p>the hot tub seemed to suffer the most damage&#8230;<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/62563103" rel="nofollow">View all comments by smitty</a></p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>artv 

van was 4000 there , stay the night and back

I did not get a room but short time rooms are generally 300-500.

short time in pattaya for me has usually been 1500 baht

food and drinks. I have no idea but generally cheaper than bkk.

seeing the crazy english bloke jump in the tub - priceless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>artv </p>
<p>van was 4000 there , stay the night and back</p>
<p>I did not get a room but short time rooms are generally 300-500.</p>
<p>short time in pattaya for me has usually been 1500 baht</p>
<p>food and drinks. I have no idea but generally cheaper than bkk.</p>
<p>seeing the crazy english bloke jump in the tub - priceless&#8230;<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/62563103" rel="nofollow">View all comments by smitty</a></p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MP and Combover - I think Marine 1 rules. Insomnia is not a bad options either. The back room of the old lucifers is a nice pick up spot as well. That is about all I can take. When I am really smashed and up late I don't mind some of the smaller bars to hang at. Jenny star bar and performance bar come to mind!

Glenn - good info and thanks for coming to defend the FLB bar. As always we just write our opinions on a given night we experienced something. Always tell it like it is and I know, given we have a bar, how hard it is to stay consistent especially when the girls are involved.

One of the reason we did the blog as an open forum with comments is to allow people to agree or disagree with us to better create a steady flow of divers information. 

Seems to be working.

Thanks for the info and my bad if I called it wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MP and Combover - I think Marine 1 rules. Insomnia is not a bad options either. The back room of the old lucifers is a nice pick up spot as well. That is about all I can take. When I am really smashed and up late I don&#8217;t mind some of the smaller bars to hang at. Jenny star bar and performance bar come to mind!</p>
<p>Glenn - good info and thanks for coming to defend the FLB bar. As always we just write our opinions on a given night we experienced something. Always tell it like it is and I know, given we have a bar, how hard it is to stay consistent especially when the girls are involved.</p>
<p>One of the reason we did the blog as an open forum with comments is to allow people to agree or disagree with us to better create a steady flow of divers information. </p>
<p>Seems to be working.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info and my bad if I called it wrong.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/62563103" rel="nofollow">View all comments by smitty</a></p>
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		<title>By: PB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 05:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a friend who has some vague memories (like the 60's, if you can remember it, you were not there) of that crawl. He thinks it was a good time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a friend who has some vague memories (like the 60&#8217;s, if you can remember it, you were not there) of that crawl. He thinks it was a good time.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/2144957838" rel="nofollow">View all comments by PB</a></p>
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