Comments on: Bad hair day? http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/ Insiders take on Thailand - Take 2 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:40:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: smitty http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-23704 smitty Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:03:57 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-23704 psi - interesting. heard this from an old timer before who talked about this similar behavior during the other bloody demonstrations of yesteryear. The book that shall not be named mentions some of this as well. It is a bit more complicated than any of us are aware is my guess. psi - interesting. heard this from an old timer before who talked about this similar behavior during the other bloody demonstrations of yesteryear. The book that shall not be named mentions some of this as well. It is a bit more complicated than any of us are aware is my guess.
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]]> By: psi100th http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-23626 psi100th Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:00:21 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-23626 One of the major reasons for the coup - never really discussed now -was the imminent likelihood of bloodshed on the 20 Sep 2006 - today. Two opposing camps headed directly for each other and ... as rumour has it (call it propaganda if you will) a third group charged with shooting people on BOTH sides of the fence - and then martial law - under which the resignation of the then PM would be on held until a new eRection. One of the major reasons for the coup - never really discussed now -was the imminent likelihood of bloodshed on the 20 Sep 2006 - today. Two opposing camps headed directly for each other and … as rumour has it (call it propaganda if you will) a third group charged with shooting people on BOTH sides of the fence - and then martial law - under which the resignation of the then PM would be on held until a new eRection.
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]]> By: smitty http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-23574 smitty Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:55:17 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-23574 We have hashed over this pretty well in the comments but I just thought this letter was interesting. Thaksin had to go in my mind but clearly the vacuum in the government has not been filled and that has lead to some issues. It is a big catch 22. Thaksin in many ways took advantage of a fledgling start at democracy by committing highway robbery but now the pendulum has swung the other way in hopes of keeping that from happening again. What a mess. We have hashed over this pretty well in the comments but I just thought this letter was interesting. Thaksin had to go in my mind but clearly the vacuum in the government has not been filled and that has lead to some issues. It is a big catch 22. Thaksin in many ways took advantage of a fledgling start at democracy by committing highway robbery but now the pendulum has swung the other way in hopes of keeping that from happening again. What a mess.
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]]> By: werewolf http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-23532 werewolf Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:10:23 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-23532 I hadn't seen the article before, but in reading it I'd have to say that there is nothing in it that I disagreed with. I'm no great defender of Thaksin, but I really really don't like what's happened in Thai politics/government over the past 366 days. I hadn’t seen the article before, but in reading it I’d have to say that there is nothing in it that I disagreed with. I’m no great defender of Thaksin, but I really really don’t like what’s happened in Thai politics/government over the past 366 days.
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]]> By: smitty http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-23528 smitty Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:49:33 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-23528 People catch this in the AWSJ today? http://nationmultimedia.com/2007/09/19/headlines/headlines_30049529.php I agree with a lot of what he is saying needs to happen but I love how he portrays himself as having done nothing wrong. People catch this in the AWSJ today?

http://nationmultimedia.com/2007/09/19/headlines/headlines_30049529.php

I agree with a lot of what he is saying needs to happen but I love how he portrays himself as having done nothing wrong.
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]]> By: smitty http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-17149 smitty Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:44:54 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-17149 Amen. Khun J. Keep it real... Amen. Khun J. Keep it real…
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]]> By: Bangkok Bad Boy http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-17147 Bangkok Bad Boy Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:30:10 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-17147 <blockquote>I do think that most of the folks that read this blog were upset the Thermae got closed at 2am during Thaksins time in office and would support anyone that keeps the bars open all nite.</blockquote> At last, we agree on something :)

I do think that most of the folks that read this blog were upset the Thermae got closed at 2am during Thaksins time in office and would support anyone that keeps the bars open all nite.

At last, we agree on something :)
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]]> By: Khun J http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-17135 Khun J Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:14:39 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-17135 You guy put up some good arguments and agree that him coming back at this point would not be helpfull. I do think that most of the folks that read this blog were upset the Thermae got closed at 2am during Thaksins time in office and would support anyone that keeps the bars open all nite. See you at the next argument. Take care all. You guy put up some good arguments and agree that him coming back at this point would not be helpfull.

I do think that most of the folks that read this blog were upset the Thermae got closed at 2am during Thaksins time in office and would support anyone that keeps the bars open all nite.

See you at the next argument.
Take care all.
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]]> By: smitty http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-17119 smitty Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:06:22 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-17119 I will close out my time on this post with my final comment. I think it is all a lesser of evils in Se Asian countries and I take the ousting of a corrupt dictator(FYI - Thaksin), the new referendum and the chance of moving as good signs. I think the AWSJ article sums it up well. The vote, Thaksin, the monarchy and so on. Written by - Mr. Thitinan is director of the Institute of Security and International Studies at Bangkok's Chulalongkorn University. FYI Khun J - they are not the propaganda arm of the Junta. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118764495563203331.html?mod=googlenews_wsj <blockquote> Thailand now faces three avenues towards its democratic future. The one that has been put in motion by the referendum prioritizes the interests of the military, bureaucracy and monarchy. It is a bureaucracy-driven polity, adapted for the era and demands of globalization. This version of democracy is less democratic and more elitist than the 1997 constitution. Its aims and intentions were contained in most of the charters prior to 1997 and before Mr. Thaksin's rise and rule. A second version of Thai democracy was that which prevailed under Mr. Thaksin and the popular 1997 constitution. It privileged new business groups who took control and monopolised power through elections. It had a pro-poor, populist agenda that unmasked the underbelly of Thai economic development during which the grassroots electorate was not given its fair share. But it also enabled Mr. Thaksin and his associates to reap conflicts of interests, rents and graft and to commit abuses of power and human rights. The third version is a more people-oriented, bottom-up political order based on the 1997 charter, but without Mr. Thaksin and his corruption and abuses of power. </blockquote> Despite what u think Khun j - I don't read the local papers. I like the Atimes, ASWJ, and I talk to a lot of people who teach at the unis. No one I know thinks that Thaskin was anything less then one of the biggest examples of a corrupt prime minister on a level never seen before seen in SE Asia. Granted he did some good things but I think some of his fixes are coming back to haunt Thailand as we speak. Either way - onward and upward. Karma lasts a long time. My guess is he will get his eventually. I will close out my time on this post with my final comment. I think it is all a lesser of evils in Se Asian countries and I take the ousting of a corrupt dictator(FYI - Thaksin), the new referendum and the chance of moving as good signs.

I think the AWSJ article sums it up well. The vote, Thaksin, the monarchy and so on.

Written by - Mr. Thitinan is director of the Institute of Security and International Studies at Bangkok’s Chulalongkorn University.

FYI Khun J - they are not the propaganda arm of the Junta.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118764495563203331.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Thailand now faces three avenues towards its democratic future. The one that has been put in motion by the referendum prioritizes the interests of the military, bureaucracy and monarchy. It is a bureaucracy-driven polity, adapted for the era and demands of globalization. This version of democracy is less democratic and more elitist than the 1997 constitution. Its aims and intentions were contained in most of the charters prior to 1997 and before Mr. Thaksin’s rise and rule. A second version of Thai democracy was that which prevailed under Mr. Thaksin and the popular 1997 constitution. It privileged new business groups who took control and monopolised power through elections. It had a pro-poor, populist agenda that unmasked the underbelly of Thai economic development during which the grassroots electorate was not given its fair share. But it also enabled Mr. Thaksin and his associates to reap conflicts of interests, rents and graft and to commit abuses of power and human rights. The third version is a more people-oriented, bottom-up political order based on the 1997 charter, but without Mr. Thaksin and his corruption and abuses of power.

Despite what u think Khun j - I don’t read the local papers. I like the Atimes, ASWJ, and I talk to a lot of people who teach at the unis. No one I know thinks that Thaskin was anything less then one of the biggest examples of a corrupt prime minister on a level never seen before seen in SE Asia. Granted he did some good things but I think some of his fixes are coming back to haunt Thailand as we speak.

Either way - onward and upward. Karma lasts a long time. My guess is he will get his eventually.
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]]> By: Donny http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-17061 Donny Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:56:45 +0000 http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/15/bad-hair-day/#comment-17061 Just a thought about the Korean girls thing ML. Yes, they're richer now so they have more choice, but the younger people are less and less xenophobic by the year than the older generation. Many of them are happy to date foreigners. Just not foreigners twice their age and weight. Just a thought about the Korean girls thing ML. Yes, they’re richer now so they have more choice, but the younger people are less and less xenophobic by the year than the older generation. Many of them are happy to date foreigners. Just not foreigners twice their age and weight.
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