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	<title>Comments on: Mango Weekly - 29 Jul 2007</title>
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	<description>Insiders take on Thailand - Take 2</description>
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		<title>By: Anancyjoync</title>
		<link>http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/01/mango-weekly-29-jul-2007/#comment-166390</link>
		<dc:creator>Anancyjoync</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was this guy see.
He wasn't very bright and he reached his adult life without ever having learned "the facts".
Somehow, it gets to be his wedding day.
While he is walking down the isle, his father tugs his sleeve and says,

"Son, when you get to the hotel room...Call me"

Hours later he gets to the hotel room with his beautiful blushing bride and he calls his father,

"Dad, we are the hotel, what do I do?"

"O.K. Son, listen up, take off your clothes and get in the bed, then she should take off her clothes and get in the bed, if not help her. Then either way, ah, call me"

A few moments later...

"Dad we took off our clothes and we are in the bed, what do I do?"

O.K. Son, listen up. Move real close to her and she should move real close to you, and then... Ah, call me."

A few moments later...

"DAD! WE TOOK OFF OUR CLOTHES, GOT IN THE BED AND MOVED REAL CLOSE, WHAT DO I DO???"

"O.K. Son, Listen up, this is the most important part. Stick the long part of your body into the place where she goes to the bathroom."

A few moments later...

"Dad, I've got my foot in the toilet, what do I do?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was this guy see.<br />
He wasn&#8217;t very bright and he reached his adult life without ever having learned &#8220;the facts&#8221;.<br />
Somehow, it gets to be his wedding day.<br />
While he is walking down the isle, his father tugs his sleeve and says,</p>
<p>&#8220;Son, when you get to the hotel room&#8230;Call me&#8221;</p>
<p>Hours later he gets to the hotel room with his beautiful blushing bride and he calls his father,</p>
<p>&#8220;Dad, we are the hotel, what do I do?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;O.K. Son, listen up, take off your clothes and get in the bed, then she should take off her clothes and get in the bed, if not help her. Then either way, ah, call me&#8221;</p>
<p>A few moments later&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Dad we took off our clothes and we are in the bed, what do I do?&#8221;</p>
<p>O.K. Son, listen up. Move real close to her and she should move real close to you, and then&#8230; Ah, call me.&#8221;</p>
<p>A few moments later&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;DAD! WE TOOK OFF OUR CLOTHES, GOT IN THE BED AND MOVED REAL CLOSE, WHAT DO I DO???&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;O.K. Son, Listen up, this is the most important part. Stick the long part of your body into the place where she goes to the bathroom.&#8221;</p>
<p>A few moments later&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Dad, I&#8217;ve got my foot in the toilet, what do I do?&#8221;<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/3743579706" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Anancyjoync</a></p>
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		<title>By: Knight in Shining Armor Syndrome by pmmp at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knight in Shining Armor Syndrome by pmmp at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] however ended up horribly. I&#8217;ve wrote about how breaking up is hard to do before (http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/01/mango-weekly-29-jul-2007/) and the pain of the breakup kept me from having another relationship for a while but I keep [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] however ended up horribly. I&#8217;ve wrote about how breaking up is hard to do before (http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/01/mango-weekly-29-jul-2007/) and the pain of the breakup kept me from having another relationship for a while but I keep [...]<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/0" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Knight in Shining Armor Syndrome by pmmp at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much</a></p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The title (male, single female, or married female) is just before the name near the top of the ID. If it were in English, it might read Mr. Somchai Ekkachai, or something like that.

Discerning the person's gender status might take a little time if you are not familiar with Thai language characters.

BTW, the Nana Hotel security guards keep ladyboy IDs in a separate stack. There were at least a dozen LB ID cards at the Nana around 3:00 am a couple of nights ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The title (male, single female, or married female) is just before the name near the top of the ID. If it were in English, it might read Mr. Somchai Ekkachai, or something like that.</p>
<p>Discerning the person&#8217;s gender status might take a little time if you are not familiar with Thai language characters.</p>
<p>BTW, the Nana Hotel security guards keep ladyboy IDs in a separate stack. There were at least a dozen LB ID cards at the Nana around 3:00 am a couple of nights ago.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/993067265" rel="nofollow">View all comments by DJ</a></p>
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		<title>By: farangsay</title>
		<link>http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/08/01/mango-weekly-29-jul-2007/#comment-13826</link>
		<dc:creator>farangsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and no thanks, I never go with girls who are younger than me :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and no thanks, I never go with girls who are younger than me <img src='http://www.tfs2m.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/1726370042" rel="nofollow">View all comments by farangsay</a></p>
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		<title>By: farangsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>farangsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks DJ. Maybe you should tell where it is supposed to be on the card because someone who doesn't read Thai script and only memorizes the last character is very likely to be lost when confronted to a situation where he might use it...
I never encountered the word "nang" for married female, some kind of administrative jargon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks DJ. Maybe you should tell where it is supposed to be on the card because someone who doesn&#8217;t read Thai script and only memorizes the last character is very likely to be lost when confronted to a situation where he might use it&#8230;<br />
I never encountered the word &#8220;nang&#8221; for married female, some kind of administrative jargon?<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/1726370042" rel="nofollow">View all comments by farangsay</a></p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smitty - I should have used the term 'contradiction' rather than 'irony' in that I could not take a 19 year old into the disco for dancing, but could take her to my room in the same hotel for a much more intimate activity. 

However, I was chatting tonight with one of the Nana Hotel security guards who sits outside the lift collecting IDs.  Surprisingly, he told me ladies must be at least 20 (born prior to the Thai year 2031) to go upstairs with their customers.  I was not sure this is a new hotel policy, or just his individual implementation.  

I have been told of customers slipping the guards a couple of hundred baht to ignore situations when their dates do not have ID cards.  It seems Thai ladies lose their ID cards almost as frequently as their phones.  

We need someone currently staying at the Nana Hotel to barfine an 18 or 19 year old to test this policy.

Any volunteers?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smitty - I should have used the term &#8216;contradiction&#8217; rather than &#8216;irony&#8217; in that I could not take a 19 year old into the disco for dancing, but could take her to my room in the same hotel for a much more intimate activity. </p>
<p>However, I was chatting tonight with one of the Nana Hotel security guards who sits outside the lift collecting IDs.  Surprisingly, he told me ladies must be at least 20 (born prior to the Thai year 2031) to go upstairs with their customers.  I was not sure this is a new hotel policy, or just his individual implementation.  </p>
<p>I have been told of customers slipping the guards a couple of hundred baht to ignore situations when their dates do not have ID cards.  It seems Thai ladies lose their ID cards almost as frequently as their phones.  </p>
<p>We need someone currently staying at the Nana Hotel to barfine an 18 or 19 year old to test this policy.</p>
<p>Any volunteers?  <img src='http://www.tfs2m.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/993067265" rel="nofollow">View all comments by DJ</a></p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ - great work. Most discos are not to allow anyone under 20 in so that is not that ironic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ - great work. Most discos are not to allow anyone under 20 in so that is not that ironic.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/62563103" rel="nofollow">View all comments by smitty</a></p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Per Daywalker:; “Re: ID Badge… Age….Cool… good info… now, is there a way to identify ‘male/female’?  Just incase someone thinks your soon to be ex-wife is a ‘dude’?!” 

Thai ID cards include the following notations indicating whether the person is a male, married female, or single female:

Male: 			นาย
Married Female:	นาง
Single Female:	น.ส (short for nongsaaw, or young lady).

If you can memorize the last Thai character, it can provide a quick reference to the marriage status (except for blokes) and gender of your ‘future ex-wife’.  The staff working at Casanova; Obsessions, and Cascade will normally have an ID card ending with ย.  

The ID identifier for Thai ladies may not accurately reflect their actual marriage status as many Thais do not formally register their marriages, or a couple may separate or divorce informally.  

PMMP’s rule of subtracting 543 from the birth year on your date’s ID card is generally a reliable way to verify she is at least 18 (though some younger working girls may borrow their friend’s or sister’s ID card).  However, if she turned 18 this year, it is useful to know the Thai abbreviations for the month of birth on the ID cards, in case she has not yet turned 18.  

An ironic situation I encountered was taking a girl to the Nana Disco, where she was not permitted to enter to go dancing as she was only 19, but it was no problem taking her to my room upstairs for a nice ‘horizontal dancing’ session.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per Daywalker:; “Re: ID Badge… Age….Cool… good info… now, is there a way to identify ‘male/female’?  Just incase someone thinks your soon to be ex-wife is a ‘dude’?!” </p>
<p>Thai ID cards include the following notations indicating whether the person is a male, married female, or single female:</p>
<p>Male: 			นาย<br />
Married Female:	นาง<br />
Single Female:	น.ส (short for nongsaaw, or young lady).</p>
<p>If you can memorize the last Thai character, it can provide a quick reference to the marriage status (except for blokes) and gender of your ‘future ex-wife’.  The staff working at Casanova; Obsessions, and Cascade will normally have an ID card ending with ย.  </p>
<p>The ID identifier for Thai ladies may not accurately reflect their actual marriage status as many Thais do not formally register their marriages, or a couple may separate or divorce informally.  </p>
<p>PMMP’s rule of subtracting 543 from the birth year on your date’s ID card is generally a reliable way to verify she is at least 18 (though some younger working girls may borrow their friend’s or sister’s ID card).  However, if she turned 18 this year, it is useful to know the Thai abbreviations for the month of birth on the ID cards, in case she has not yet turned 18.  </p>
<p>An ironic situation I encountered was taking a girl to the Nana Disco, where she was not permitted to enter to go dancing as she was only 19, but it was no problem taking her to my room upstairs for a nice ‘horizontal dancing’ session.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/993067265" rel="nofollow">View all comments by DJ</a></p>
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		<title>By: farangsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>farangsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no friends but if I get to meet some people some day, I'll think about it ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no friends but if I get to meet some people some day, I&#8217;ll think about it <img src='http://www.tfs2m.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/1726370042" rel="nofollow">View all comments by farangsay</a></p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can I say - word sucks?

It was more a case that I was typing when u wrote since when I submitted then I saw your comment as well.

my bad!

Thanks for reading and remember to tell your friends!

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can I say - word sucks?</p>
<p>It was more a case that I was typing when u wrote since when I submitted then I saw your comment as well.</p>
<p>my bad!</p>
<p>Thanks for reading and remember to tell your friends!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.tfs2m.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/62563103" rel="nofollow">View all comments by smitty</a></p>
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