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		<title>By: Combover</title>
		<link>http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/07/20/which-road-to-take-and-more-on-gullivers/#comment-41262</link>
		<dc:creator>Combover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overheard leaving Gulliver's the other night...

Him: "Can I come in your arse?"

Her: (Softly and sweetly) "Yes teerak, can"

Him: "And can my two friends as well?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overheard leaving Gulliver&#8217;s the other night&#8230;</p>
<p>Him: &#8220;Can I come in your arse?&#8221;</p>
<p>Her: (Softly and sweetly) &#8220;Yes teerak, can&#8221;</p>
<p>Him: &#8220;And can my two friends as well?&#8221;<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/3280461592" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Combover</a></p>
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		<title>By: the sandman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the sandman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The advantage of playing pool with the girls is that you can make the deal/bet with the girl.........'If I win you come to my room and fuck me for free....but If you win I must come to your room and fuck you for free'..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The advantage of playing pool with the girls is that you can make the deal/bet with the girl&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8217;If I win you come to my room and fuck me for free&#8230;.but If you win I must come to your room and fuck you for free&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/1403975504" rel="nofollow">View all comments by the sandman</a></p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ - u got it.

JD - it's a country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbekistan

She was hot too.

I heard there is an interesting scene in both Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.

if they are as good in bed as the Ukrainians - then sign me up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ - u got it.</p>
<p>JD - it&#8217;s a country.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbekistan" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbekistan</a></p>
<p>She was hot too.</p>
<p>I heard there is an interesting scene in both Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.</p>
<p>if they are as good in bed as the Ukrainians - then sign me up.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/62563103" rel="nofollow">View all comments by smitty</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack Dawson</title>
		<link>http://www.tfs2m.com/main/2007/07/20/which-road-to-take-and-more-on-gullivers/#comment-12154</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uzbeckis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uzbeckis?<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/2333197454" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Jack Dawson</a></p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone could do a lengthy article on BGs and honesty.

RE: Ladies whom I have more than just occasional ST liasons with, I also have low tolerance for dishonesty.  I perceive it as a sign of disrespect and the lady thinking I am as stupid as a newbie tourist. 

I much prefer the honest companion like the one who told me last week "I've had 18 barfines already this month and am tired; can I come sleep your room tonight, no sex?"

I also don't mind if the lady tells you the small lie that she thinks you want to hear, such as "I like old man better than young boy."

But I'll pull out the Red Card for the lady who more than once feeds me bull$hit such as "Customer barfine me, but we don't have sex.", or "Customer always gives me 3000 baht LT".  I don't care if they have sex with any customer as that is their business and I am not sponsoring them. It's just that I prefer an honest relationship (even with a BG) with someone who I spend more than just an occasional ST with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone could do a lengthy article on BGs and honesty.</p>
<p>RE: Ladies whom I have more than just occasional ST liasons with, I also have low tolerance for dishonesty.  I perceive it as a sign of disrespect and the lady thinking I am as stupid as a newbie tourist. </p>
<p>I much prefer the honest companion like the one who told me last week &#8220;I&#8217;ve had 18 barfines already this month and am tired; can I come sleep your room tonight, no sex?&#8221;</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t mind if the lady tells you the small lie that she thinks you want to hear, such as &#8220;I like old man better than young boy.&#8221;</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll pull out the Red Card for the lady who more than once feeds me bull$hit such as &#8220;Customer barfine me, but we don&#8217;t have sex.&#8221;, or &#8220;Customer always gives me 3000 baht LT&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t care if they have sex with any customer as that is their business and I am not sponsoring them. It&#8217;s just that I prefer an honest relationship (even with a BG) with someone who I spend more than just an occasional ST with.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/993067265" rel="nofollow">View all comments by DJ</a></p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 02:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MP - Yup. This is always a problem really. I do not think there are a lot of good places anymore for daytime hook ups. Least not for quality. Arthur talked about this subject here:

http://www.tfs2m.com/?p=259

I also think the smarter girls have moved this chase to the online hookup sites which I plan on getting into a little bit more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MP - Yup. This is always a problem really. I do not think there are a lot of good places anymore for daytime hook ups. Least not for quality. Arthur talked about this subject here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/?p=259" rel="nofollow">http://www.tfs2m.com/?p=259</a></p>
<p>I also think the smarter girls have moved this chase to the online hookup sites which I plan on getting into a little bit more.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/62563103" rel="nofollow">View all comments by smitty</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's reassuring to know that the FL's at Gulliver's are so approachable and user friendly when it comes to picking them up.

One further question arises as to what do you do if you want to play the long ball game but be a 'team player' i.e.you want to play with a team of girls.

You will tend to find the same girls frequenting Gullivers I would expect.If you pick girls up here and let them know that you are playing the long ball game but then want to chop and change after say three days then you may experience difficulties I would have thought. You go back to find a new girl and there may be one or more girls there that you may have had as 'girl friends' in the past. 

There might be a slight bit of uncomfortableness or embarrassment in trying to pick up new girls in those circumstances. These girls will of course talk to each other and you may find your butterfly wings being clipped.You have the same problems happening at beer bars/go go bars where girls go with a guy for one night only yet still they dislike guys who come back to the bar and go with another girl. The problem would probably be worst at Gulliver's where you are hoping to keep going back to certain girls over time but may want a new girl on a particular night when one of your regulars is there. These girls know that it is only a game however they may not like it and could make things awkward. 

The answer of course is to have many other places like Gulliver's where you can butterfly. However are there many other bars that are the direct equivalents of Gulliver's? i.e. good looking freelancers,good English, interested in the long term. There are freelancers at nightclubs however these clubs are generally expensive for drinks, entry, etc. The Beer Garden is not really an equivalent because of the lack of quality and the fact that the girls there are normally only interested in a couple of quick pops for no longer than a couple of hours to while away the afternoon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s reassuring to know that the FL&#8217;s at Gulliver&#8217;s are so approachable and user friendly when it comes to picking them up.</p>
<p>One further question arises as to what do you do if you want to play the long ball game but be a &#8216;team player&#8217; i.e.you want to play with a team of girls.</p>
<p>You will tend to find the same girls frequenting Gullivers I would expect.If you pick girls up here and let them know that you are playing the long ball game but then want to chop and change after say three days then you may experience difficulties I would have thought. You go back to find a new girl and there may be one or more girls there that you may have had as &#8216;girl friends&#8217; in the past. </p>
<p>There might be a slight bit of uncomfortableness or embarrassment in trying to pick up new girls in those circumstances. These girls will of course talk to each other and you may find your butterfly wings being clipped.You have the same problems happening at beer bars/go go bars where girls go with a guy for one night only yet still they dislike guys who come back to the bar and go with another girl. The problem would probably be worst at Gulliver&#8217;s where you are hoping to keep going back to certain girls over time but may want a new girl on a particular night when one of your regulars is there. These girls know that it is only a game however they may not like it and could make things awkward. </p>
<p>The answer of course is to have many other places like Gulliver&#8217;s where you can butterfly. However are there many other bars that are the direct equivalents of Gulliver&#8217;s? i.e. good looking freelancers,good English, interested in the long term. There are freelancers at nightclubs however these clubs are generally expensive for drinks, entry, etc. The Beer Garden is not really an equivalent because of the lack of quality and the fact that the girls there are normally only interested in a couple of quick pops for no longer than a couple of hours to while away the afternoon.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/2881690096" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Mike Phillips</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the original post and yes, if you live in Thailand long-term it is good to re-evaluate your position from time-to-time. I lived in Bangkok about a year and eventually my re-evaluation led to my relocation, but, given the rise in the baht and the current surreality in government/visa/foreign-investment rules, I consider myself fortunate.

Re: Gulliver's, the place always put me off a bit. It was too big and too much like a regular bar. I don't drink alcohol or play pool, so I don't go to regular bars to hang out or chat. Some people are into that, but when I was cruising Lower Suk I was looking for poussoir.

I guess I should mention that I had three regular galpals when I lived there, all pros of course (try having even one "normal" Thai girl for a girlfriend and see how she reacts to even the delusion that you might be carnally involved elsewhere--working girls are more pragmatic IMO). None of them knew each other but of course they all knew I was a butterfly. Because I told them so. Up front. When I was in the mood I would phone or SMS and they would reply if they were free or not (for the record, one I met at a go-go, and the other two on the street).

Every once in a while I would get the urge for something different and would cruise. I had a game I called the "BG7G" for Beer Garden (soi) 7 Game. The objective was to walk to the BG7 and pull someone strolling by WITHOUT going into the BG7. This is not as difficult as it sounds, as some of you already know. Once I chatted up a gal buy some grilled skewers of meat on Soi 5, she brought them back to my place. Of course some were winners and some less so. I got the phone numbers of the winners and sometimes would invite them back. One, a delightful mix of central Thai and hilltribe, a 37 kg spinner had this catchphrase "hey man." It sounds dumb but I would laugh every time I got an SMS that started "HEY MAN..." and naturally there were times when she'd be knocking at my door just as the Vitamin V was kicking in. Yeah, some aspects of BKK life I miss.

I'm late 40s, not thin, not Quasimodo but no hunk. I believe that how you ACT is more important to the girls than how you look. Yes, the joking about being "pumpui" is absurd, but lots of Thai life and humor is absurd. If you laugh, joke, speak a little Thai and make the girls laugh, you will be MUCH more popular than some buffed 20-something whelp who's barking orders down at the strip-club. Knowledge of local culture helps: it's largely disappeared in Bangkok, but upcountry there's a tradition that anyone is entitled to water, preferably cold. I've seen businesses that have water coolers on the sidewalk for passersby to help themselves. Supermarkets sell individual sealed cups of water with straws: I would keep them in the fridge. When a girl came over to my flat I would immediately offer her some cold water. Snacks are also a good idea.

Then you start joking. One thing I liked to do is talk about Japanese men (they will ALWAYS say they don't like Js, probably tell the Japanese they never go with farang), because I spent a year in Tokyo. I sometimes do my imitation of a Japanese punter, which would send them into hysterics. Do whatever you know. Things like magic tricks/sleight-of-hand are a riot. I know a guy who used to carry children's books in Thai (comics/text balloons) and would pretend to read out absurd interpretations of the text. There are a million variations. Have fun, interact, joke. Imagine how much more fun this is than sitting listening to some farang complain about his bitch ex-wife or the heat or the icestorms back home or how Thai girls compare to Filipinas or whatEVER. Can that noise. Put a smile on yr face and be silly. They don't care about your worries. Make 'em laugh, put 'em at ease, and you'll have better sex.

Having multiple girlfriends: yeah it sounds like Hugh Hefner but the reality is that these gals are banging other guys too, if they're not doing it professionally they will likely have a Thai boyfriend or husband. If you can't deal with that then maybe Thailand is not the place for you, not that you can't find a faithful partner but that, as a farang, you are limited and the situation is pressurized. One thing I found is that women over 24-25 are generally more level-headed than the 18-19 year-olds. And they're more willing to discuss sex openly. Yeah, talk about sex with a Thai gal. Why not?

And one thing about Thai working girls is that you make it clear from the get-go that you will not tolerate any *major* shit. The "3-strikes" rule is a good one, and that's one example. One thing I would not stand for is any guilt-trips, bullshit excuses for out-of-line payments, or any other standard-bar-girl shit. You just smile and say no, sometimes...you need to say no a little creatively. Some guys get indignant, but try to accept that they are ALLOWED to try to rip you off. It's part of the game. I have never ever had a bargirl try to steal from me. I have had more than a few try to get me to give them money for no-value. But once they get to know me, they realize that what I represent is good value and no-bullshit. We'd have meals together, watch movies and have a lot of sex, and once Thai women are warmed up, as many of you know, they like sex. A LOT.

But, what specifically turns them on? Do you take the time to learn? I found out that one of these gals liked to watch porn, but not just any porn: she liked watching two western guys with one Asian dame sportfuck on the TV. The other two didn't like porn. Well, not much anyway.

Just one man's opinion, but I had a lot of fun, didn't go broke, left Bangkok with my sanity intact and may return some day. I guess if I could say one thing about Thai girls it's this: they come from a different culture and no matter what they've learned about how to SEEM like they understand your culture, their own culture is what predominates. They will say you're "jai dee" for the price of a Bacardi Breezer. But if you get to know them, they don't say it any more, because you show you're jai dee: make 'em laugh, feed and water 'em, learn to make 'em cum. It's a value-proposition like most things in life, so when preposterous requests for money are mentioned, that's not good value for you, so laugh. And don't come up with the cash. If the girl goes away irked, either find another, or send her an SMS a coupla days later saying you've got the new Scooby-Doo movie on DVD and you want her to come over and watch it. Now that's something I've never had to resort to!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the original post and yes, if you live in Thailand long-term it is good to re-evaluate your position from time-to-time. I lived in Bangkok about a year and eventually my re-evaluation led to my relocation, but, given the rise in the baht and the current surreality in government/visa/foreign-investment rules, I consider myself fortunate.</p>
<p>Re: Gulliver&#8217;s, the place always put me off a bit. It was too big and too much like a regular bar. I don&#8217;t drink alcohol or play pool, so I don&#8217;t go to regular bars to hang out or chat. Some people are into that, but when I was cruising Lower Suk I was looking for poussoir.</p>
<p>I guess I should mention that I had three regular galpals when I lived there, all pros of course (try having even one &#8220;normal&#8221; Thai girl for a girlfriend and see how she reacts to even the delusion that you might be carnally involved elsewhere&#8211;working girls are more pragmatic IMO). None of them knew each other but of course they all knew I was a butterfly. Because I told them so. Up front. When I was in the mood I would phone or SMS and they would reply if they were free or not (for the record, one I met at a go-go, and the other two on the street).</p>
<p>Every once in a while I would get the urge for something different and would cruise. I had a game I called the &#8220;BG7G&#8221; for Beer Garden (soi) 7 Game. The objective was to walk to the BG7 and pull someone strolling by WITHOUT going into the BG7. This is not as difficult as it sounds, as some of you already know. Once I chatted up a gal buy some grilled skewers of meat on Soi 5, she brought them back to my place. Of course some were winners and some less so. I got the phone numbers of the winners and sometimes would invite them back. One, a delightful mix of central Thai and hilltribe, a 37 kg spinner had this catchphrase &#8220;hey man.&#8221; It sounds dumb but I would laugh every time I got an SMS that started &#8220;HEY MAN&#8230;&#8221; and naturally there were times when she&#8217;d be knocking at my door just as the Vitamin V was kicking in. Yeah, some aspects of BKK life I miss.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m late 40s, not thin, not Quasimodo but no hunk. I believe that how you ACT is more important to the girls than how you look. Yes, the joking about being &#8220;pumpui&#8221; is absurd, but lots of Thai life and humor is absurd. If you laugh, joke, speak a little Thai and make the girls laugh, you will be MUCH more popular than some buffed 20-something whelp who&#8217;s barking orders down at the strip-club. Knowledge of local culture helps: it&#8217;s largely disappeared in Bangkok, but upcountry there&#8217;s a tradition that anyone is entitled to water, preferably cold. I&#8217;ve seen businesses that have water coolers on the sidewalk for passersby to help themselves. Supermarkets sell individual sealed cups of water with straws: I would keep them in the fridge. When a girl came over to my flat I would immediately offer her some cold water. Snacks are also a good idea.</p>
<p>Then you start joking. One thing I liked to do is talk about Japanese men (they will ALWAYS say they don&#8217;t like Js, probably tell the Japanese they never go with farang), because I spent a year in Tokyo. I sometimes do my imitation of a Japanese punter, which would send them into hysterics. Do whatever you know. Things like magic tricks/sleight-of-hand are a riot. I know a guy who used to carry children&#8217;s books in Thai (comics/text balloons) and would pretend to read out absurd interpretations of the text. There are a million variations. Have fun, interact, joke. Imagine how much more fun this is than sitting listening to some farang complain about his bitch ex-wife or the heat or the icestorms back home or how Thai girls compare to Filipinas or whatEVER. Can that noise. Put a smile on yr face and be silly. They don&#8217;t care about your worries. Make &#8216;em laugh, put &#8216;em at ease, and you&#8217;ll have better sex.</p>
<p>Having multiple girlfriends: yeah it sounds like Hugh Hefner but the reality is that these gals are banging other guys too, if they&#8217;re not doing it professionally they will likely have a Thai boyfriend or husband. If you can&#8217;t deal with that then maybe Thailand is not the place for you, not that you can&#8217;t find a faithful partner but that, as a farang, you are limited and the situation is pressurized. One thing I found is that women over 24-25 are generally more level-headed than the 18-19 year-olds. And they&#8217;re more willing to discuss sex openly. Yeah, talk about sex with a Thai gal. Why not?</p>
<p>And one thing about Thai working girls is that you make it clear from the get-go that you will not tolerate any *major* shit. The &#8220;3-strikes&#8221; rule is a good one, and that&#8217;s one example. One thing I would not stand for is any guilt-trips, bullshit excuses for out-of-line payments, or any other standard-bar-girl shit. You just smile and say no, sometimes&#8230;you need to say no a little creatively. Some guys get indignant, but try to accept that they are ALLOWED to try to rip you off. It&#8217;s part of the game. I have never ever had a bargirl try to steal from me. I have had more than a few try to get me to give them money for no-value. But once they get to know me, they realize that what I represent is good value and no-bullshit. We&#8217;d have meals together, watch movies and have a lot of sex, and once Thai women are warmed up, as many of you know, they like sex. A LOT.</p>
<p>But, what specifically turns them on? Do you take the time to learn? I found out that one of these gals liked to watch porn, but not just any porn: she liked watching two western guys with one Asian dame sportfuck on the TV. The other two didn&#8217;t like porn. Well, not much anyway.</p>
<p>Just one man&#8217;s opinion, but I had a lot of fun, didn&#8217;t go broke, left Bangkok with my sanity intact and may return some day. I guess if I could say one thing about Thai girls it&#8217;s this: they come from a different culture and no matter what they&#8217;ve learned about how to SEEM like they understand your culture, their own culture is what predominates. They will say you&#8217;re &#8220;jai dee&#8221; for the price of a Bacardi Breezer. But if you get to know them, they don&#8217;t say it any more, because you show you&#8217;re jai dee: make &#8216;em laugh, feed and water &#8216;em, learn to make &#8216;em cum. It&#8217;s a value-proposition like most things in life, so when preposterous requests for money are mentioned, that&#8217;s not good value for you, so laugh. And don&#8217;t come up with the cash. If the girl goes away irked, either find another, or send her an SMS a coupla days later saying you&#8217;ve got the new Scooby-Doo movie on DVD and you want her to come over and watch it. Now that&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve never had to resort to!<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/1878191572" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Jack</a></p>
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		<title>By: bo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 05:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahaah...2 cigarettes = 2000 baht......what if they are smoking cigars ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahaah&#8230;2 cigarettes = 2000 baht&#8230;&#8230;what if they are smoking cigars ?<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/3757637367" rel="nofollow">View all comments by bo</a></p>
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		<title>By: BigBabyKenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBabyKenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there are a group of girls sitting without men at Gulliver's a good working assumption is they are working.

If you see girls alone or in small groups obviously nursing a single drink they are definitely working. 

If you see a group of girls with a single guy, another good working assumption is that the unattached girls are working. 

Standard protocol at Gullivers is to just walk up, introduce yourself, and strike up a conversation. 

This is even true when you see a guy with two girls or a guy with a group of girls. It is OK to walk up, say hello to the obviously unattached girl, and attempt to transact. 

You do not have to buy a round of drinks and are not expected to. 99% of the girls are super friendly and, frankly, are happy anyone has come over to talk to them. 

Sit around and watch for awhile and you will see  most of the girls sit for hours and never even get approached.

If you pay attention to the girls conversation and body language, you will know within a couple of minutes whether the girl is working and interested in transacting.

If you are completely clueless in this area a good working assumption is that if they make direct eye contact and smile frequently  they are interested--only the price, terms, and services need to be negotiated and agreed upon.

Even working TG's are very polite and attuned to saving face so if for some reason they are not interested they won't just stone face or tell you to get lost like they would back in The World. 

This is one of the great features of Thai society-basic respect for the feelings of others and it permeates even the farang girl venues. 

When you approach a group of girls and decide which one you are interested in just ignore the others or make a small compliment about her. The other girls will quickly clue in, shut up, and let you and your choice explore possibilities. 

If you are not interested after talking to them for a couple of minutes or you find they are not interested be polite, say it was nice to meet them, and move on. No harm.  No foul. No reason to be embarrassed. 

Feel free to butterfly over to the next group of prospectives and try again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there are a group of girls sitting without men at Gulliver&#8217;s a good working assumption is they are working.</p>
<p>If you see girls alone or in small groups obviously nursing a single drink they are definitely working. </p>
<p>If you see a group of girls with a single guy, another good working assumption is that the unattached girls are working. </p>
<p>Standard protocol at Gullivers is to just walk up, introduce yourself, and strike up a conversation. </p>
<p>This is even true when you see a guy with two girls or a guy with a group of girls. It is OK to walk up, say hello to the obviously unattached girl, and attempt to transact. </p>
<p>You do not have to buy a round of drinks and are not expected to. 99% of the girls are super friendly and, frankly, are happy anyone has come over to talk to them. </p>
<p>Sit around and watch for awhile and you will see  most of the girls sit for hours and never even get approached.</p>
<p>If you pay attention to the girls conversation and body language, you will know within a couple of minutes whether the girl is working and interested in transacting.</p>
<p>If you are completely clueless in this area a good working assumption is that if they make direct eye contact and smile frequently  they are interested&#8211;only the price, terms, and services need to be negotiated and agreed upon.</p>
<p>Even working TG&#8217;s are very polite and attuned to saving face so if for some reason they are not interested they won&#8217;t just stone face or tell you to get lost like they would back in The World. </p>
<p>This is one of the great features of Thai society-basic respect for the feelings of others and it permeates even the farang girl venues. </p>
<p>When you approach a group of girls and decide which one you are interested in just ignore the others or make a small compliment about her. The other girls will quickly clue in, shut up, and let you and your choice explore possibilities. </p>
<p>If you are not interested after talking to them for a couple of minutes or you find they are not interested be polite, say it was nice to meet them, and move on. No harm.  No foul. No reason to be embarrassed. </p>
<p>Feel free to butterfly over to the next group of prospectives and try again.<br /> <a href="http://www.tfs2m.com/viewcomments/2429557330" rel="nofollow">View all comments by BigBabyKenny</a></p>
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