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This page was originally the home of my review of Cascade, now available on The Guide. This page has been kept as a placeholder for the comments thread that ensued.
Please leave all future comments on the Guide entry:
I will travel to Bangkok November,20 I want to visit ladyboys and girls (17-22 years old).
View all comments by josef
I’d make that 18-22 - unless you want to visit a Bangkok jail
View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
I like moore informations an the ladyboy in the bars in nana plaza is possibol ??? I love ladyboy and I go in tailand the next week for 15 days
Please answer my …..
View all comments by parise
I’d take between 18 and 25 - 17 is surely illegal to work in bars
View all comments by David
I believe it’s 18 to work in bars, but 20 to visit them. The law is a little confusing on this. I think it’s technically illegal to take an 18 year old gogo girl for drinks in her own bar on her day off.
View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
The way we were explained the laws is this:
18-20 can work in the bars as service girls - but not bartenders or bargirls - meaning girls that go out or go with customers.
Technically prostitution is illegal but as we all know hardly enforced. The one thing they are suppose to enforce is the age limit. Meaning girls under 20 are not suppose to be going with customers. Hence bars put up a sign that says no girls under 20. The main thesis behind this is that a punter could get nailed if he is paying to be with a girl under 20. However if it is a non-paying situation the girl can be 18 or over.
Quite a gray area. SO yes the bars have girls under 20 working but they are not suppose to. Most bars pay extra to the police if they have girls under 20 working. If they do the police will generally call before they visit said bar so the bar can hide the under 20s upstairs. U will see this firsthand on Cowboy many times in places like Rawhide, Sheba’s and Long Gun to name a few.
View all comments by Smitty
Smitty: You’ve hit on the essence of statutory application as it applies to most laws in most jurisdictions. Law is legislated and then, where we come from, it’s the courts and the lawyers who interpret its application.
Here, it’s the police who need room to pull out their chairs. belly up to the table and dig in. If this “gray area” did not exist there iwas no room for “Busniet” that would lead to outright “stay the f*ck away” payments which can be almost as high as the cost of running the rest of the operation..
So yeah, when ya think about it, (and I’m neither a lawyer nor a bar owner, manager or insider. I’ve just been here for a while and Discovery Channeled the place to my own satisfaction) it works as well as can be expected here in a classical jurisdiction. People grumble but the play is clearly drawn up. And everybody does their best to keep it balanced.
But “TILT” is tilt and once in a while someone gets stupid. (The cops w/ Khun Chuwit Komolwisit par eamplar.
This is what works more or less here and what passes for law enforcement here. (As people close to the scene well know) Yeah, I like to extrapolate like this when the “rascals” are shuffling instead of dancing and “bloody facing” instead of being cool about it and there’s nothing much happening but I still have half a beer. I look around the place and try to figure out what’s happening.
Sometimes its like going to a f*cking gamepark
View all comments by Prufrock
U got it. Most of the bars are looking out for their own skin anyway and that of their customers. However I would not want to be caught with an under 18 who was not associated with a bar, meaning u have no one to turn to for help, because for sure they are going to get something out of you for it. The plan there would be to act quickly, talk slow and get out your wallet.
View all comments by Smitty
just come back met richey cascade loved her was supposed to go back but got caught up in buisness wonder if she will talk to me again coming back soon
View all comments by billy weston
@Billy: I'm sure "she" will talk to you, and indeed lub you long time as soon as you get your wallet out.
"Richey"? Aren't they supposed to adopt female names?
View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
i never tried before but like to visit cascade for the hell of it. bit too much hassle though, forever getting offered free BJs in toilet and beer expensive, but the decor inside is crazy. are they all pre-op in there?
View all comments by Stevie G
I'm told that all the ladyboys working in the Nana Plaza bars are pre-op. I haven't independently verified this, but feel free to check for me.
View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
start of foottball season 2moro so i will be sure to check it out before the kick off, will keep you posted
View all comments by Stevie G
Anyone know whats a good rate to pay for a short time with a ladyboy?
and does anyone know if the ladyboys here are on alot of hormones?
thanks!
View all comments by daliv
all the ladyboys in nana have cocks so be warned, and they take hormones from when they are 10years old i have even heard of some taking youngerand the price depends on wether he/she actually likes you or not - if your a fat old mutant naturally they will want more cash, but if your in good shape and have banter with them expet to pay a lot less
if you go in 'low-season' you shouldnt really pay more then 750-1000baht for short-time
you'll be blown away by the decor in here
and if you buy a cola for your ladyboy friend you'll get blown away in your seat for a few minutes
i go sucked in the toilets for 200baht in here b4
View all comments by Penfold
Thanks for the info!
So I can imagine that having a ladyboy that can cum is pretty rare eh?
View all comments by daliv
3B called me gay for being serviced here recently, but I think that's just bitterness on his part because I don't fancy him (OR ANY OTHER GUYS OKAY?).
You (or certainly I) have to be a little drunk to do this stuff, but on a good night it can be a riot. Like the other night. I was hooked in from outside - okay, I didn't exactly use my Tazer on them - and got descended on by three fairly sensational shemales who had my cock out before the drinks arrived. Subtlety, and a long circling display of courtship, is lost on these creatures. That's part of the charm - if that's the right word. I bought one of them a drink, which had the strange effect of making the other two vanish before my eyes. As this doe-eyed lovely worked me to a quivering nano-second from climax, the "girls" on the stage offered their encouragement, and graphic examples of where I could park my Purple Cadillac of Love if my imagination was not up to the task.
A mercifully short Walk of Shame to a short-time hotel, and the Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name suddenly found its voice. I know 3B bangs (fnnnnrrr) on about getting sleazy and hardcore in grimy BJ bars, but anyone who hasn't been in a short-time hotel with a Bangkok ladyboy simply does not know his sleaze from his elbow … these creatures approach sex from (ahem) a totally different angle, and while I'd never prefer them over a less hormonally-confused partner, they certainly should form part of any prospective BKK sleazemonger's experience. But then, you probably have issues, right?
(Caveat: the short-time hotel near Cascades has very suspicious wall-mirrors, screwed flat to the wall, in un-mirror-like aluminium frames, with curiously dark glass. As I don't give a fuck who watches me fuck a ladyboy, I pointed her at the mirror and gave my (possibly imagined) audience a cheery wave as I delivered an especially heavy consignment of pleat meat …)
View all comments by Pants Elk
Are the ladyboys in cascade any good at being “tops”?
View all comments by daliv
of all the ladyboy bars this is bar far the sleaziest (which ultimately makes it the best IMHO)my record is 6 BJs in here in one night - these ladyboys are depraved animals literally queueing up to suck you off for free, i get a kick out of the sheer taboo and sleaziness in these joints
ELK have you nailed the 1 that looks like diana ross in here?
View all comments by Penfold
I bar fined one in here twice last week.
She liked me that much I didn't have to pay for the sex (But I tipped her anyway).
Different to a female but an experience to say the least.
I'll dabble with them whenever I am in Bangkok, but I still prefer the girls to the ladyboys.
I must say they are very possessive and insecure.
There are a few in there that have been in ladyboy pornos you'll find on the net too.
I was informed they get 10k for filming with a bloke. 5K for a single masturbation shoot (no pun intended).
Regarding will they be a top?
The one I was with said she wasn't into that when I asked if she'd ever fucked a guy.
But you can ask this when negotiating no doubt.
And I get a kick out of walking in the streets and seeing farang women looking at me with these fascinating phenomena.
View all comments by paul c
"of all the ladyboy bars this is bar far the sleaziest (which ultimately makes it the best IMHO)my record is 6 BJs in here in one night - these ladyboys are depraved animals literally queueing up to suck you off for free, i get a kick out of the sheer taboo and sleaziness in these joints
ELK have you nailed the 1 that looks like diana ross in here?"
This is quite possibly the greatest review ever recorded in the history of the universe…
I must have ladyboys…it is my destiny
View all comments by Himbo Green
"ELK have you nailed the 1 that looks like diana ross in here?"
No, mine looked like Barry White.
View all comments by Pants Elk
@Himbo, glad you like my review - i may not be a poet, but tell it like it is. you will love it in here just find a decent table, whack your cock out and it'll be a feeding frenzy. i even took 2 into the toilet for a double header - a snaip at 200baht - just dont let the mama/papasan find out
@ELK she/he sounds like a beauty, you got his/her number?
View all comments by Penfold